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Tour de France 2016: voorlopige deelnemerslijst en discussietopic (juni 2016)
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Pyama
01 juni 2016 21:36
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Tour de France 2016: voorlopige deelnemerslijst en discussietopic (juni 2016)
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Pyama
01 juni 2016 21:36
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02.07. Etappe 1: Mont-Saint-Michel - Sainte-Marie-du-Mont/Utah Beach (188,0 km)
03.07. Etappe 2: Saint-Lô - Cherbourg-en-Cotentin (183,0 km)
04.07. Etappe 3: Granville - Angers (223,5 km)
05.07. Etappe 4: Saumur - Limoges (237,5 km)
06.07. Etappe 5: Limoges - Le Lioran (216,0 km)
07.07. Etappe 6: Arpajon-sur-Cère - Montauban (190,5 km)
08.07. Etappe 7: L'Isle-Jourdain - Lac de Payolle (162,5 km)
09.07. Etappe 8: Pau - Bagnères-de-Luchon (184,0 km)
10.07. Etappe 9: Vielha Val d'Aran - Andorre Arcalis (AND) (184,5 km)
11.07. Rustdag: Andorre (AND)
12.07. Etappe 10: Escaldes-Engordany (AND) - Revel (197,0 km)
13.07. Etappe 11: Carcassonne - Montpellier (162,5 km)
14.07. Etappe 12: Montpellier - Mont Ventoux (184,0 km)
15.07. Etappe 13 (TT): Bourg-Saint-Andéol - La Caverne du Pont-d'Arc (37,5 km)
16.07. Etappe 14: Montélimar - Villars-les-Dombes/Parc des Oiseaux (208,5 km)
17.07. Etappe 15: Bourg-en-Bresse - Culoz (160,0 km)
18.07. Etappe 16: Moirans-en-Montagne - Berne (SUI) (209,0 km)
19.07. Rustdag: Berne (SUI)
20.07. Etappe 17: Berne (SUI) - Finhaut-Emosson (SUI) (184,5 km)
21.07. Etappe 18 (MTT): Sallanches - Megève (17,0 km)
22.07. Etappe 19: Albertville - Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc (146,0 km)
23.07. Etappe 20: Megève - Morzine (146,5 km)
24.07. Etappe 21: Chantilly - Paris/Champs-Élysées (113,0 km)
Totaal: 3535,0 km
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03.07. Etappe 2: Saint-Lô - Cherbourg-en-Cotentin (183,0 km)
04.07. Etappe 3: Granville - Angers (223,5 km)
05.07. Etappe 4: Saumur - Limoges (237,5 km)
06.07. Etappe 5: Limoges - Le Lioran (216,0 km)
07.07. Etappe 6: Arpajon-sur-Cère - Montauban (190,5 km)
08.07. Etappe 7: L'Isle-Jourdain - Lac de Payolle (162,5 km)
09.07. Etappe 8: Pau - Bagnères-de-Luchon (184,0 km)
10.07. Etappe 9: Vielha Val d'Aran - Andorre Arcalis (AND) (184,5 km)
11.07. Rustdag: Andorre (AND)
12.07. Etappe 10: Escaldes-Engordany (AND) - Revel (197,0 km)
13.07. Etappe 11: Carcassonne - Montpellier (162,5 km)
14.07. Etappe 12: Montpellier - Mont Ventoux (184,0 km)
15.07. Etappe 13 (TT): Bourg-Saint-Andéol - La Caverne du Pont-d'Arc (37,5 km)
16.07. Etappe 14: Montélimar - Villars-les-Dombes/Parc des Oiseaux (208,5 km)
17.07. Etappe 15: Bourg-en-Bresse - Culoz (160,0 km)
18.07. Etappe 16: Moirans-en-Montagne - Berne (SUI) (209,0 km)
19.07. Rustdag: Berne (SUI)
20.07. Etappe 17: Berne (SUI) - Finhaut-Emosson (SUI) (184,5 km)
21.07. Etappe 18 (MTT): Sallanches - Megève (17,0 km)
22.07. Etappe 19: Albertville - Saint-Gervais Mont Blanc (146,0 km)
23.07. Etappe 20: Megève - Morzine (146,5 km)
24.07. Etappe 21: Chantilly - Paris/Champs-Élysées (113,0 km)
Totaal: 3535,0 km
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 01/06/2016 21:38 door Pyama.
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Pyama
01 juni 2016 21:36
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Deelnemerslijst Tour de France 2016
Gebaseerd op feiten, fictie, roddels, seizoensplanningen, interviews en uitgelekte selecties. Alleen indien 'voorselectie' staat vermeldt, betreft het een officiële door de ploeg bekend gemaakte selectie.
1. Ag2r-La Mondiale
Definitief:
Bardet, Bakelants, Cherel, S.Dumoulin, Gastauer, Gautier, Gougeard, Pozzovivo, Vuillermoz
Niet: Peraud, Riblon
2. Astana
Definitief:
Aru, Fuglsang, Grivko, Kangert, Lutsenko, V.Nibali, Rosa, L.L.Sanchez, Tiralongo
Niet: Boom, M.A.Lopez, Westra
3. BMC
Definitief:
Porte, Bookwalter, Burghardt, D.Caruso, Dennis, Moinard, Schar, Van Avermaet, Van Garderen
Niet: Atapuma, Gilbert, S.Sanchez
4. Cannondale
Definitief:
Rolland, Breschel, Craddock, Howes, Koren, Langeveld, Navardauskas, Slagter, Van Baarle
Niet: Formolo, Moser, Uran
5. Dimension Data
Definitief:
Cavendish, Berhane, Boasson Hagen, Cummings, Eisel, R.Janse van Rensburg, S.Pauwels, Renshaw, D.Teklehaimanot
Niet: Anton, Fraile, C.Meyer
6. Etixx-Quickstep
Definitief
Kittel, J.Alaphilippe, Keisse, D.Martin, T.Martin, Richeze, Sabatini, Vakoc, J.Vermote
Niet: Boonen, Gaviria, Jungels, Meersman, Stybar, N.Terpstra, Trentin
7. FDJ
Definitief:
Pinot, Bonnet, Ladagnous, Morabito, C.Pineau, Reichenbach, Roux, Roy, Vichot
Niet: Demare, Geniez
8. Giant-Alpecin
Definitief:
Barguil, Curvers, Degenkolb, T.Dumoulin, Geschke, Preidler, Sinkeldam, Ten Dam, Timmer
9. IAM Cycling
Definitief:
Frank, Clement, Coppel, Elmiger, Enger, Hollenstein, Howard, Naesen, Pantano
Niet: Brandle, Coppel, Haussler, Pelucchi, Zaugg
10. Katusha
Definitief:
Q.Rodriguez, Guarnieri, Haller, Morkov, Kristoff, Losada, Vandenbroeck, Vicioso, I.Zakarin
Niet: Machado, Taaramae, Spilak
11. Lampre-Merida
Definitief:
R.Costa, Arashiro, Bono, Cimolai, Durasek, Grmay, Meintjes, Pibernik, Polanc
Reserve: Cattaneo, M.Costa
Niet: Ferrari, Modolo, Ulissi
12. Lotto-Soudal
Definitief:
Greipel, Bak, Debusschere, De Gendt, Gallopin, Hansen, Henderson, Roelandts, Sieberg
Niet: Valls, T.Wellens
13. Lotto NL-Jumbo
Definitief:
G.Bennett, Groenewegen, Kelderman, Lindeman, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke, Wagner, Wynants
Niet: Gesink, Hofland, Kruijswijk, Roglic
14. Movistar
Definitief:
N.Quintana, Anacona, Erviti, Je.Herrada, G.Izagirre, J.Izagirre, D.Moreno, Oliveira, Valverde
Niet: Amador, Betancur, Lobato, Malori, D.Quintana, Rojas, Visconti
15. Orica-GreenEdge
Definitief:
Matthews, Albasini, Durbridge, Gerrans, Hayman, Impey, Juul-Jensen, Plaza, A.Yates
Niet: Chaves, Ewan
16. Sky
Definitief:
Froome, Sg.Henao, Kyrienka, M.Landa, Nieve, Poels, Rowe, Stannard, Thomas
Niet: Konig, Kwiatkowski, Nordhaug, D.van Poppel, Viviani
17. Tinkoff
Definitief:
Contador, M.Bodnar, Gatto, R.Kiserlovski, Kreuziger, Majka, P.Sagan, Tosatto, Valgren
18. Trek-Segafredo
Mollema, Cancellara, Irizar, Rast, F.Schleck, Stetina, Stuyven, E.Theuns, H.Zubeldia
Niet: Bonifazio, Hesjedal
19. Bora-Argon18
Definitief
Archbold, Barta, C.Benedetti, S.Bennett, Buchmann, Huzarski, Konrad, Schillinger, Voss
20. Cofidis
Definitief:
Bozic, Cousin, Edet, Jeannesson, Laporte, Lemoine, Mate, Navarro, Soupe
21. Direct Energie
Definitief:
Syl.Chavanel, Coquard, Duchesne, Jeandesboz, Gene, Petit, Sicard, Tulik, Voeckler
22. Fortuneo
Definitief:
Sepulveda, Breen, Delaplace, B.Feillu, Fonseca, McLay, Perichon, C.Sorensen, Vachon
Niet: Fedrigo
En verder niet aanwezig:
E.Gasparotto, S.Colbrelli, M.Marcato, P.Bilbao, C.Barbero, P.Weening, J.Hoogerland, R.Kreder, D.Rebellin, F.Pozzato
G.Ciolek, F.Wegmann, L.Gerdemann, J.Mareczko, M.Belletti, F.Chicchi, D.Cunego, A.Foliforov, S.Firsanov, F.Mancebo
D.Diaz, F.Pellizotti
64 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 07/07/2016 08:48 door Pyama.
Gebaseerd op feiten, fictie, roddels, seizoensplanningen, interviews en uitgelekte selecties. Alleen indien 'voorselectie' staat vermeldt, betreft het een officiële door de ploeg bekend gemaakte selectie.
1. Ag2r-La Mondiale
Definitief:
Bardet, Bakelants, Cherel, S.Dumoulin, Gastauer, Gautier, Gougeard, Pozzovivo, Vuillermoz
Niet: Peraud, Riblon
2. Astana
Definitief:
Aru, Fuglsang, Grivko, Kangert, Lutsenko, V.Nibali, Rosa, L.L.Sanchez, Tiralongo
Niet: Boom, M.A.Lopez, Westra
3. BMC
Definitief:
Porte, Bookwalter, Burghardt, D.Caruso, Dennis, Moinard, Schar, Van Avermaet, Van Garderen
Niet: Atapuma, Gilbert, S.Sanchez
4. Cannondale
Definitief:
Rolland, Breschel, Craddock, Howes, Koren, Langeveld, Navardauskas, Slagter, Van Baarle
Niet: Formolo, Moser, Uran
5. Dimension Data
Definitief:
Cavendish, Berhane, Boasson Hagen, Cummings, Eisel, R.Janse van Rensburg, S.Pauwels, Renshaw, D.Teklehaimanot
Niet: Anton, Fraile, C.Meyer
6. Etixx-Quickstep
Definitief
Kittel, J.Alaphilippe, Keisse, D.Martin, T.Martin, Richeze, Sabatini, Vakoc, J.Vermote
Niet: Boonen, Gaviria, Jungels, Meersman, Stybar, N.Terpstra, Trentin
7. FDJ
Definitief:
Pinot, Bonnet, Ladagnous, Morabito, C.Pineau, Reichenbach, Roux, Roy, Vichot
Niet: Demare, Geniez
8. Giant-Alpecin
Definitief:
Barguil, Curvers, Degenkolb, T.Dumoulin, Geschke, Preidler, Sinkeldam, Ten Dam, Timmer
9. IAM Cycling
Definitief:
Frank, Clement, Coppel, Elmiger, Enger, Hollenstein, Howard, Naesen, Pantano
Niet: Brandle, Coppel, Haussler, Pelucchi, Zaugg
10. Katusha
Definitief:
Q.Rodriguez, Guarnieri, Haller, Morkov, Kristoff, Losada, Vandenbroeck, Vicioso, I.Zakarin
Niet: Machado, Taaramae, Spilak
11. Lampre-Merida
Definitief:
R.Costa, Arashiro, Bono, Cimolai, Durasek, Grmay, Meintjes, Pibernik, Polanc
Reserve: Cattaneo, M.Costa
Niet: Ferrari, Modolo, Ulissi
12. Lotto-Soudal
Definitief:
Greipel, Bak, Debusschere, De Gendt, Gallopin, Hansen, Henderson, Roelandts, Sieberg
Niet: Valls, T.Wellens
13. Lotto NL-Jumbo
Definitief:
G.Bennett, Groenewegen, Kelderman, Lindeman, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke, Wagner, Wynants
Niet: Gesink, Hofland, Kruijswijk, Roglic
14. Movistar
Definitief:
N.Quintana, Anacona, Erviti, Je.Herrada, G.Izagirre, J.Izagirre, D.Moreno, Oliveira, Valverde
Niet: Amador, Betancur, Lobato, Malori, D.Quintana, Rojas, Visconti
15. Orica-GreenEdge
Definitief:
Matthews, Albasini, Durbridge, Gerrans, Hayman, Impey, Juul-Jensen, Plaza, A.Yates
Niet: Chaves, Ewan
16. Sky
Definitief:
Froome, Sg.Henao, Kyrienka, M.Landa, Nieve, Poels, Rowe, Stannard, Thomas
Niet: Konig, Kwiatkowski, Nordhaug, D.van Poppel, Viviani
17. Tinkoff
Definitief:
Contador, M.Bodnar, Gatto, R.Kiserlovski, Kreuziger, Majka, P.Sagan, Tosatto, Valgren
18. Trek-Segafredo
Mollema, Cancellara, Irizar, Rast, F.Schleck, Stetina, Stuyven, E.Theuns, H.Zubeldia
Niet: Bonifazio, Hesjedal
19. Bora-Argon18
Definitief
Archbold, Barta, C.Benedetti, S.Bennett, Buchmann, Huzarski, Konrad, Schillinger, Voss
20. Cofidis
Definitief:
Bozic, Cousin, Edet, Jeannesson, Laporte, Lemoine, Mate, Navarro, Soupe
21. Direct Energie
Definitief:
Syl.Chavanel, Coquard, Duchesne, Jeandesboz, Gene, Petit, Sicard, Tulik, Voeckler
22. Fortuneo
Definitief:
Sepulveda, Breen, Delaplace, B.Feillu, Fonseca, McLay, Perichon, C.Sorensen, Vachon
Niet: Fedrigo
En verder niet aanwezig:
E.Gasparotto, S.Colbrelli, M.Marcato, P.Bilbao, C.Barbero, P.Weening, J.Hoogerland, R.Kreder, D.Rebellin, F.Pozzato
G.Ciolek, F.Wegmann, L.Gerdemann, J.Mareczko, M.Belletti, F.Chicchi, D.Cunego, A.Foliforov, S.Firsanov, F.Mancebo
D.Diaz, F.Pellizotti
64 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 07/07/2016 08:48 door Pyama.
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Dennis
01 juni 2016 21:39
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Pyama
01 juni 2016 21:42
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Om de criticasters vast voor te zijn: bij sommige ploegen is nog weinig bekend zodat de halve ploeg als mogelijke selectie is opgenomen. Het is dan ook nog vroeg. In de loop van de week zullen de fouten er wel uit gaan zodat we aan het eind van de maand een volledige lijst hebben. Aanvullingen/opmerkingen graag hieronder.
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Ruudje2209
01 juni 2016 21:53
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Gautier rijdt niet voor direct energie. Voor de rest goed bezig!
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El Mik
01 juni 2016 22:13
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Pyama Schreef:
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> En verder niet aanwezig:
> E.Gasparotto, S.Colbrelli, M.Marcato, P.Bilbao,
> C.Barbero, P.Weening, J.Hoogerland, R.Kreder,
> D.Rebellin, F.Pozzato
> G.Ciolek, F.Wegmann, L.Gerdemann, J.Mareczko,
> M.Belletti, F.Chicchi, D.Cunego, A.Foliforov,
> S.Firsanov, F.Mancebo
> D.Diaz, F.Pellizotti
Vanwaar dit rijtje namen?
Mauro Finetto, Eddie Dunbar en Joost van Leijen doen ook niet mee.
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> En verder niet aanwezig:
> E.Gasparotto, S.Colbrelli, M.Marcato, P.Bilbao,
> C.Barbero, P.Weening, J.Hoogerland, R.Kreder,
> D.Rebellin, F.Pozzato
> G.Ciolek, F.Wegmann, L.Gerdemann, J.Mareczko,
> M.Belletti, F.Chicchi, D.Cunego, A.Foliforov,
> S.Firsanov, F.Mancebo
> D.Diaz, F.Pellizotti
Vanwaar dit rijtje namen?
Mauro Finetto, Eddie Dunbar en Joost van Leijen doen ook niet mee.
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predator
01 juni 2016 22:15
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Prima gedaan. Mooi.
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Johan
01 juni 2016 22:43
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Mancebo in de Tour zou wel weer eens leuk zijn.
Heb me altijd afgevraagd waarom die nooit is teruggekeerd.
Heb me altijd afgevraagd waarom die nooit is teruggekeerd.
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Linkebal
01 juni 2016 23:18
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Wel mooi dat bijna de hele Tour zich in de zuidelijke helft van Frankrijk afspeelt. Toch het mooiere gedeelte vind ik.
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Pyama
01 juni 2016 23:20
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@Ruudje: klopt, stond twee keer op de lijst, goede gewoon te ;-).
@ElMik: ben je weleens op het oude Tour prikbord geweest? Daar waren pooldeelnemers die bijv. renners uit de Giro of voorgaande Tours wilden opnemen en daar vooral veel vragen en overbodige topics over openden. Zelfs iemand die wijlen Galvez wilde opstellen. Een kwinkslag dus.
@ElMik: ben je weleens op het oude Tour prikbord geweest? Daar waren pooldeelnemers die bijv. renners uit de Giro of voorgaande Tours wilden opnemen en daar vooral veel vragen en overbodige topics over openden. Zelfs iemand die wijlen Galvez wilde opstellen. Een kwinkslag dus.
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Brieske
01 juni 2016 23:23
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Tourprikbord, hopelijk blijft dit prikbord vrij van die onzin.
4 Gesink topics op een vierkante centimeter, dat is wat dit prikbord nodig heeft!
Groet
4 Gesink topics op een vierkante centimeter, dat is wat dit prikbord nodig heeft!
Groet
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Leon
02 juni 2016 00:38
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Mooi gedaan Pyama! Je mag nog wel ergens een S. in een G. wijzigen.
En mag dit sticky, Spaak? Zonde als het wegzakt.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 02/06/2016 00:40 door Leon.
En mag dit sticky, Spaak? Zonde als het wegzakt.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 02/06/2016 00:40 door Leon.
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Leon
02 juni 2016 00:39
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El Mik Schreef:
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> Joost van Leijen
> doet ook niet mee.
Hoe zou het toch met Joost zijn?
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> Joost van Leijen
> doet ook niet mee.
Hoe zou het toch met Joost zijn?
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Linkebal
02 juni 2016 01:04
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Gaat van een Leijen dakje
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Slimmerd
02 juni 2016 01:08
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Prikdude
02 juni 2016 04:32
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Pyama Boy, whatskeburt met Valgren Andersen bij Tinkoff? Die staat op meerdere sites al bij de selectie en bij jou niet in de voorselectie?
Denk trouwens dat Leopold König de Tour gaat winnen, die is al maanden enkel aan het bloed tappen - met zijn mysterieuze blessure.
Denk trouwens dat Leopold König de Tour gaat winnen, die is al maanden enkel aan het bloed tappen - met zijn mysterieuze blessure.
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Arsimo
02 juni 2016 05:53
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Mooie lijst, merci.
Detail: Cancellara bij Trek is nog geen zekerheid. Hij beslist na Ronde van Zwitserland.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 02/06/2016 05:53 door Arsimo.
Detail: Cancellara bij Trek is nog geen zekerheid. Hij beslist na Ronde van Zwitserland.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 02/06/2016 05:53 door Arsimo.
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Columbus SLX
02 juni 2016 08:44
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Ik kan er niks aan doen, maar ik ben altijd voor de B-ploegjes:
Dus Hup Bora! die Jan Barta nog 's een dagje voorop rijden...
Hup Fortuneo! en die Feillu ergens 10 - 20 in GC.
Mijn "droom" is nog altijd dat Roompot nog 's een wildcard krijgt, maar dat zal wel niet.
Dus Hup Bora! die Jan Barta nog 's een dagje voorop rijden...
Hup Fortuneo! en die Feillu ergens 10 - 20 in GC.
Mijn "droom" is nog altijd dat Roompot nog 's een wildcard krijgt, maar dat zal wel niet.
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Michael B*
02 juni 2016 09:12
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Columbus SLX Schreef:
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> Ik kan er niks aan doen, maar ik ben altijd voor
> de B-ploegjes:
>
> Dus Hup Bora! die Jan Barta nog 's een dagje
> voorop rijden...
> Hup Fortuneo! en die Feillu ergens 10 - 20 in GC.
>
> Mijn "droom" is nog altijd dat Roompot nog 's een
> wildcard krijgt, maar dat zal wel niet.
Roompot heeft op dit moment nog weinig te zoeken in de Tour, kunnen bezig eerste maar eens Vuelta proberen.
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> Ik kan er niks aan doen, maar ik ben altijd voor
> de B-ploegjes:
>
> Dus Hup Bora! die Jan Barta nog 's een dagje
> voorop rijden...
> Hup Fortuneo! en die Feillu ergens 10 - 20 in GC.
>
> Mijn "droom" is nog altijd dat Roompot nog 's een
> wildcard krijgt, maar dat zal wel niet.
Roompot heeft op dit moment nog weinig te zoeken in de Tour, kunnen bezig eerste maar eens Vuelta proberen.
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Ron Meijers
02 juni 2016 09:32
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Top! De voorlopige deelnemerslijst én het discussietopic bedoel ik dan, waarvoor dank aan Spaak en Pyama.
Alleen ben ik bang dat we hier straks met z'n allen de draad letterlijk kwijt zijn. Er valt immers zo veel te bespreken ... Van ploegensamenstelling tot rolverdeling tot parcours tot kanshebbers etc.
Ik het niet haalbaar om een soort tourprikbord in het leven te roepen, waarop verschillende topics kunnen worden gepost en niet alles in topic belandt? Of is dit praktisch/technisch niet haalbaar?
Wellicht doe ik er wat makkelijk over. Ik bedoel het ook niet kritisch; 't is maar een idee. Maar er komt nog zó veel Tournieuws aan natuurlijk.
Alleen ben ik bang dat we hier straks met z'n allen de draad letterlijk kwijt zijn. Er valt immers zo veel te bespreken ... Van ploegensamenstelling tot rolverdeling tot parcours tot kanshebbers etc.
Ik het niet haalbaar om een soort tourprikbord in het leven te roepen, waarop verschillende topics kunnen worden gepost en niet alles in topic belandt? Of is dit praktisch/technisch niet haalbaar?
Wellicht doe ik er wat makkelijk over. Ik bedoel het ook niet kritisch; 't is maar een idee. Maar er komt nog zó veel Tournieuws aan natuurlijk.
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Ron Meijers
02 juni 2016 09:34
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Hier ook nog een overzichtje. Geen idee hoe actueel en betrouwbaar dat is. Pyama, gebruik jij dat als een van je bronnen?
[www.touretappe.nl]
[www.touretappe.nl]
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MarcoV
02 juni 2016 10:25
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Geniez mag je schrappen bij FDJ, is nog steeds niet goed hersteld na z'n opgave in de Giro.
(bron z'n eigen twitter)
(bron z'n eigen twitter)
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Slimmerd
02 juni 2016 10:42
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Breuk in de pols die geopereerd moet worden zelfs.
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Pyama
02 juni 2016 10:59
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Dank voor de reacties en aanvullingen. Periodiek werk ik deze bij.
Ik haak zo min mogelijk aan bij andere sites met lijstjes, liever interviews en programma's, programma Polen e.d. Laten we hier onze eigen lijst van maken.
Touretappe is volgens mij dezelfde lijst als PCS.
Ik haak zo min mogelijk aan bij andere sites met lijstjes, liever interviews en programma's, programma Polen e.d. Laten we hier onze eigen lijst van maken.
Touretappe is volgens mij dezelfde lijst als PCS.
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zumsteg
02 juni 2016 13:22
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bakfiets
02 juni 2016 15:21
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benieuwd wat alaphillipe kan
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ton duk
02 juni 2016 15:29
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Leon Schreef:
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> El Mik Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > Joost van Leijen
> > doet ook niet mee.
>
>
> Hoe zou het toch met Joost zijn?
Zal 's informeren
gr
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> El Mik Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Joost van Leijen
> > doet ook niet mee.
>
>
> Hoe zou het toch met Joost zijn?
Zal 's informeren
gr
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Olano
02 juni 2016 16:12
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Olano
02 juni 2016 16:13
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Aru en Nibali: gaat dat boteren tussen die twee?
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Brieske
02 juni 2016 16:43
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Zou wel vet zijn dat als Nibali door een ongeval op achterstand raakt hij door aan Aru te hangen weer terug komt, hij is er toe in staat.
Tot zover mijn nuttige bijdrage voor vandaag, hup Gesink!
Groet
Tot zover mijn nuttige bijdrage voor vandaag, hup Gesink!
Groet
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Ron Meijers
02 juni 2016 18:19
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Ik vraag me af wat Kwiat mag bij SKY. Is die gedegradeerd tot wagonnetje in de trein? Of mag die ook nog voor dagsucces gaan?
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Rudy t.
02 juni 2016 20:09
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Die ploeg is niet normaal. Froome Thomas poels konig en landa kunnen allemaal top 5 rijden als kopman. Dan nog kyriekna en kwiat erbij en nog wat opvulling en het kan niet meer stuk.
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Eazster
02 juni 2016 21:33
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Inderdaad Rudy T eigenlijk niet normaal meer die Kwaliteit bij SKY. Gewoon 4 kopmannen voor een klassement zou kunnen. Kwiat niet eens meegerekend.
Deze Theme Tune (Million Dollar Man WWF) doet me daar wat aan denken: Some might cost a little Some might cost a lot But i'm SKY And you WILL be bought *hah hah ha ha*
Sterkste ploeg ooit? Misschien dat US Postal 2001 er in de buurt komt met (Armstrong,Heras,Rubiera,Ekimov,Leipheimer,Vandevelde ,Hamilton?)
Verder opvallend dat Trentin met al zijn koersen toch in de Kittel trein moet plaatsnemen. Als het zo is dat die al in de Tour selectie hoort ,na de Giro al volledig te hebben gereden.
Verder benieuwd naar niet alleen de klassementsmannen ,maar de strijd die ongetwijfeld gaat komen tussen puncheurs als Van Avermaet, Sagan en Alaphilippe (Yes!) en Vuillermoz. Op dag 2 meteen op de afspraak zijn SVP.
Deze Theme Tune (Million Dollar Man WWF) doet me daar wat aan denken: Some might cost a little Some might cost a lot But i'm SKY And you WILL be bought *hah hah ha ha*
Sterkste ploeg ooit? Misschien dat US Postal 2001 er in de buurt komt met (Armstrong,Heras,Rubiera,Ekimov,Leipheimer,Vandevelde ,Hamilton?)
Verder opvallend dat Trentin met al zijn koersen toch in de Kittel trein moet plaatsnemen. Als het zo is dat die al in de Tour selectie hoort ,na de Giro al volledig te hebben gereden.
Verder benieuwd naar niet alleen de klassementsmannen ,maar de strijd die ongetwijfeld gaat komen tussen puncheurs als Van Avermaet, Sagan en Alaphilippe (Yes!) en Vuillermoz. Op dag 2 meteen op de afspraak zijn SVP.
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El Chaba
02 juni 2016 21:44
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Je vergeet Matthews nog.
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diravi
02 juni 2016 22:55
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Hopelijk voor Giant doet Preidler komende maand geen trap teveel om zijn vorm van de Giro voort te zetten, wat was die sterk.
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Luijt
03 juni 2016 00:10
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Ja en Dylan
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Rudy t.
03 juni 2016 06:51
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De sky toerploeg van 2012 doet ook leuk mee met wiggins froome en porte.
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Columbus SLX
03 juni 2016 07:56
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Rudy t. Schreef:
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> Die ploeg is niet normaal. Froome Thomas poels
> konig en landa kunnen allemaal top 5 rijden als
> kopman. Dan nog kyriekna en kwiat erbij en nog wat
> opvulling en het kan niet meer stuk.
En zouden ze dan echt ook al weer met het rondeboek erbij de rekensommetjes maken voor de bergritten - vanaf daar allemaal op kop, jij van km zoveel tot zoveel, dan jij, dan jij... Iedereen met ook maar een beetje GC ambitite vies in het rood in de aanloop. En als ze bij de slotklim komen zijn ze blij dat ze er nog aanhangen. Zo'n scenario hebben ze vaak toegepast - en vinttikniezo heel boeiend om naar te kijken.
De eerste innovatie die ik als koersdirecteur zou toepassen is de sterkste ploegen met 6 renners laten rijden, de middenploegen met 7 en de b-ploegjes met 8 renners. Ga het dan maar 's controleren. Maar ja - ik krijg wel vaker het verwijt te horen niet heel erg realistisch te zijn.
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> Die ploeg is niet normaal. Froome Thomas poels
> konig en landa kunnen allemaal top 5 rijden als
> kopman. Dan nog kyriekna en kwiat erbij en nog wat
> opvulling en het kan niet meer stuk.
En zouden ze dan echt ook al weer met het rondeboek erbij de rekensommetjes maken voor de bergritten - vanaf daar allemaal op kop, jij van km zoveel tot zoveel, dan jij, dan jij... Iedereen met ook maar een beetje GC ambitite vies in het rood in de aanloop. En als ze bij de slotklim komen zijn ze blij dat ze er nog aanhangen. Zo'n scenario hebben ze vaak toegepast - en vinttikniezo heel boeiend om naar te kijken.
De eerste innovatie die ik als koersdirecteur zou toepassen is de sterkste ploegen met 6 renners laten rijden, de middenploegen met 7 en de b-ploegjes met 8 renners. Ga het dan maar 's controleren. Maar ja - ik krijg wel vaker het verwijt te horen niet heel erg realistisch te zijn.
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Michael B*
03 juni 2016 08:49
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Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt alleen als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders soupeer je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij dit jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste 2 weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra zullen na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging krijgen bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend seizoen. Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne, maar voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
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shake
03 juni 2016 08:56
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Michael B* Schreef:
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> Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt alleen
> als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders soupeer
> je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel
> al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens
> de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen
> wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij dit
> jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste 2
> weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra zullen
> na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging krijgen
> bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend seizoen.
> Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne, maar
> voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor Sky. Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 03/06/2016 08:58 door shake.
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> Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt alleen
> als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders soupeer
> je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel
> al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens
> de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen
> wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij dit
> jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste 2
> weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra zullen
> na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging krijgen
> bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend seizoen.
> Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne, maar
> voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor Sky. Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 03/06/2016 08:58 door shake.
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Michael B*
03 juni 2016 09:24
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shake Schreef:
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> Michael B* Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt
> alleen
> > als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders
> soupeer
> > je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu
> wel
> > al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY
> tijdens
> > de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar
> alleen
> > wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij
> dit
> > jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste 2
> > weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra
> zullen
> > na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging
> krijgen
> > bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend
> seizoen.
> > Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne,
> maar
> > voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
>
> Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor Sky.
> Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
Dat Porter niet voor SKY rijdt dat weet ik ook wel hoor, daarom is het juist interessant hoe hij dit jaar in de Tour gaat rijden, vooral omdat hij in een grote ronde nog nooit een goed eindklassement heeft gereden, in de ronde kleine rondes vaak genoeg.
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> Michael B* Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt
> alleen
> > als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders
> soupeer
> > je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu
> wel
> > al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY
> tijdens
> > de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar
> alleen
> > wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij
> dit
> > jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste 2
> > weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra
> zullen
> > na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging
> krijgen
> > bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend
> seizoen.
> > Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne,
> maar
> > voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
>
> Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor Sky.
> Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
Dat Porter niet voor SKY rijdt dat weet ik ook wel hoor, daarom is het juist interessant hoe hij dit jaar in de Tour gaat rijden, vooral omdat hij in een grote ronde nog nooit een goed eindklassement heeft gereden, in de ronde kleine rondes vaak genoeg.
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El Mik
03 juni 2016 09:37
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"Froome Thomas poels konig en landa kunnen allemaal top 5 rijden als kopman"
Nou, dat lijkt me iets overdreven. Sowieso hebben Thomas en Poels nog nooit iets laten zien dat ook maar een klein beetje in de buurt komt.
Al geloof ik wel dat het bij Poels allemaal een keer goed kan vallen. Thomas geloof ik niet zo in.
Nou, dat lijkt me iets overdreven. Sowieso hebben Thomas en Poels nog nooit iets laten zien dat ook maar een klein beetje in de buurt komt.
Al geloof ik wel dat het bij Poels allemaal een keer goed kan vallen. Thomas geloof ik niet zo in.
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Clavan
03 juni 2016 09:41
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But it's holding on
And it's holding strong
And it's holding strong
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Rudy t.
03 juni 2016 09:52
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Thomas juist wel wmb, die stond vorig jaar zo ongeveer tot het slotweekend als knecht gewoon in de top 5 van het klassement. Dat komt al aardig in de buurt. Voor mij een potentieel toekomstig Tour winnaar. Wat poels betreft heb je gelijk inderdaad.
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shake
03 juni 2016 10:00
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Michael B* Schreef:
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> shake Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Michael B* Schreef:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt
> > alleen
> > > als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders
> > soupeer
> > > je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu
> > wel
> > > al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY
> > tijdens
> > > de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar
> > alleen
> > > wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij
> > dit
> > > jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste
> 2
> > > weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra
> > zullen
> > > na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging
> > krijgen
> > > bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend
> > seizoen.
> > > Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne,
> > maar
> > > voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
> >
> > Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor
> Sky.
> > Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
>
> Dat Porter niet voor SKY rijdt dat weet ik ook wel
> hoor, daarom is het juist interessant hoe hij dit
> jaar in de Tour gaat rijden, vooral omdat hij in
> een grote ronde nog nooit een goed eindklassement
> heeft gereden, in de ronde kleine rondes vaak
> genoeg.
A. Porte heet Porte geen Porter.
B. De zinnen 'Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt.' deden vermoeden dat jij niet wist dat Porte niet meer bij Sky rijdt.
C. Waarom is het juist nu (hij niet meer bij Sky rijdt) interessant om te zien hoe hij in Tour rijdt? Hij heeft zowel bij Sky als daarvoor nog nooit een grote ronde tot een goed einde gebracht.
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> shake Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Michael B* Schreef:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt
> > alleen
> > > als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders
> > soupeer
> > > je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je nu
> > wel
> > > al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY
> > tijdens
> > > de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar
> > alleen
> > > wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft hij
> > dit
> > > jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar? Eerste
> 2
> > > weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra
> > zullen
> > > na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging
> > krijgen
> > > bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend
> > seizoen.
> > > Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne,
> > maar
> > > voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
> >
> > Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor
> Sky.
> > Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
>
> Dat Porter niet voor SKY rijdt dat weet ik ook wel
> hoor, daarom is het juist interessant hoe hij dit
> jaar in de Tour gaat rijden, vooral omdat hij in
> een grote ronde nog nooit een goed eindklassement
> heeft gereden, in de ronde kleine rondes vaak
> genoeg.
A. Porte heet Porte geen Porter.
B. De zinnen 'Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt.' deden vermoeden dat jij niet wist dat Porte niet meer bij Sky rijdt.
C. Waarom is het juist nu (hij niet meer bij Sky rijdt) interessant om te zien hoe hij in Tour rijdt? Hij heeft zowel bij Sky als daarvoor nog nooit een grote ronde tot een goed einde gebracht.
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Cyclad
03 juni 2016 10:12
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shake Schreef:
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> Michael B* Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > shake Schreef:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Michael B* Schreef:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt
> > > alleen
> > > > als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders
> > > soupeer
> > > > je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je
> nu
> > > wel
> > > > al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY
> > > tijdens
> > > > de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar
> > > alleen
> > > > wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft
> hij
> > > dit
> > > > jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar?
> Eerste
> > 2
> > > > weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra
> > > zullen
> > > > na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging
> > > krijgen
> > > > bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend
> > > seizoen.
> > > > Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne,
> > > maar
> > > > voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
> > >
> > > Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor
> > Sky.
> > > Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
> >
> > Dat Porter niet voor SKY rijdt dat weet ik ook
> wel
> > hoor, daarom is het juist interessant hoe hij
> dit
> > jaar in de Tour gaat rijden, vooral omdat hij
> in
> > een grote ronde nog nooit een goed
> eindklassement
> > heeft gereden, in de ronde kleine rondes vaak
> > genoeg.
>
> A. Porte heet Porte geen Porter.
> B. De zinnen 'Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al
> jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de
> Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel
> afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt.' deden vermoeden
> dat jij niet wist dat Porte niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt.
> C. Waarom is het juist nu (hij niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt) interessant om te zien hoe hij in Tour
> rijdt? Hij heeft zowel bij Sky als daarvoor nog
> nooit een grote ronde tot een goed einde gebracht.
Volgens mij lopen er wat lijntjes door elkaar.
De bedoelde renner heet geen Gregory, maar Richie Porte.
Gregory Porter bestaat ook, is zelfs zeer bekend bij velen, maar hij is zanger en voor zover mij bekend geen wielrenner.
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> Michael B* Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > shake Schreef:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Michael B* Schreef:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Dat met zijn 5 kopmannen op koprijden werkt
> > > alleen
> > > > als alle 5 ook goed in vorm zijn, anders
> > > soupeer
> > > > je je eigen benen. Wat dat betreft zie je
> nu
> > > wel
> > > > al jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY
> > > tijdens
> > > > de Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar
> > > alleen
> > > > wel afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt. Heeft
> hij
> > > dit
> > > > jaar hetzelfde niveau als vorig jaar?
> Eerste
> > 2
> > > > weken een Froome kan volgen? Boom en Westra
> > > zullen
> > > > na dit seizoen wel geen contractverlenging
> > > krijgen
> > > > bij Astana. Beide rijden een tegenvallend
> > > seizoen.
> > > > Ja ok, Westra wint de 3daagse van de Panne,
> > > maar
> > > > voor de rest is en was het kommer en kwel.
> > >
> > > Gregory rijdt sinds dit jaar niet meer voor
> > Sky.
> > > Poels draagt nu Froome's koffers.
> >
> > Dat Porter niet voor SKY rijdt dat weet ik ook
> wel
> > hoor, daarom is het juist interessant hoe hij
> dit
> > jaar in de Tour gaat rijden, vooral omdat hij
> in
> > een grote ronde nog nooit een goed
> eindklassement
> > heeft gereden, in de ronde kleine rondes vaak
> > genoeg.
>
> A. Porte heet Porte geen Porter.
> B. De zinnen 'Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al
> jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de
> Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel
> afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt.' deden vermoeden
> dat jij niet wist dat Porte niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt.
> C. Waarom is het juist nu (hij niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt) interessant om te zien hoe hij in Tour
> rijdt? Hij heeft zowel bij Sky als daarvoor nog
> nooit een grote ronde tot een goed einde gebracht.
Volgens mij lopen er wat lijntjes door elkaar.
De bedoelde renner heet geen Gregory, maar Richie Porte.
Gregory Porter bestaat ook, is zelfs zeer bekend bij velen, maar hij is zanger en voor zover mij bekend geen wielrenner.
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Michael B*
03 juni 2016 10:13
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shake Schreef:
> A. Porte heet Porte geen Porter.
> B. De zinnen 'Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al
> jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de
> Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel
> afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt.' deden vermoeden
> dat jij niet wist dat Porte niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt.
> C. Waarom is het juist nu (hij niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt) interessant om te zien hoe hij in Tour
> rijdt? Hij heeft zowel bij Sky als daarvoor nog
> nooit een grote ronde tot een goed einde gebracht.
In antwoord:
A Jij noemt Porter, Gregory ? Dat slaat helemaal als een tang op een varken
B + C Is juist de vraag / verrassing hoe een (top) renner rijdt als hij voor SKY heeft gereden en nu dus op 'eigen' benen moet staan. Bij de ploeg van Armstrong zag je dat een Hamilton en Landis op eigen benen alleen maar beter gingen rijden. Gaat Porter dit ook flikken? Poels draagt geen koffers hoor, daarvoor hebben ze een batterij loopjongens
Is ook wel nodig voor de grote hoeveelheid koffers die ze meenemen naar de Tour.
2 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 03/06/2016 10:16 door Michael B*.
> A. Porte heet Porte geen Porter.
> B. De zinnen 'Wat dat betreft zie je nu wel al
> jarenlang dat de renners van team SKY tijdens de
> Tour dik in orde zijn. Is voor dit jaar alleen wel
> afwachten hoe een Porter rijdt.' deden vermoeden
> dat jij niet wist dat Porte niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt.
> C. Waarom is het juist nu (hij niet meer bij Sky
> rijdt) interessant om te zien hoe hij in Tour
> rijdt? Hij heeft zowel bij Sky als daarvoor nog
> nooit een grote ronde tot een goed einde gebracht.
In antwoord:
A Jij noemt Porter, Gregory ? Dat slaat helemaal als een tang op een varken
B + C Is juist de vraag / verrassing hoe een (top) renner rijdt als hij voor SKY heeft gereden en nu dus op 'eigen' benen moet staan. Bij de ploeg van Armstrong zag je dat een Hamilton en Landis op eigen benen alleen maar beter gingen rijden. Gaat Porter dit ook flikken? Poels draagt geen koffers hoor, daarvoor hebben ze een batterij loopjongens
Is ook wel nodig voor de grote hoeveelheid koffers die ze meenemen naar de Tour.
2 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 03/06/2016 10:16 door Michael B*.
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El Mik
03 juni 2016 10:27
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Voornamelijk dankzij de ploegentijdrit en omdat Thomas goed was in de eerste bergrit. Verder werd er niet echt heel hard gekoerst in de Pyreneeën (zelfs op Plateau de Beille kwamen ze "gewoon" met een man of 10 in dezelfde tijd binnen).
In de derde week zakte hij er ook gelijk wel héél erg hard doorheen. Net als Porte vrijwel elke grote ronde. Ik zie daar geen kenmerk van een grote ronde winnaar in, misschien een Vuelta met een slappe laatste week.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 03/06/2016 10:29 door El Mik.
In de derde week zakte hij er ook gelijk wel héél erg hard doorheen. Net als Porte vrijwel elke grote ronde. Ik zie daar geen kenmerk van een grote ronde winnaar in, misschien een Vuelta met een slappe laatste week.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 03/06/2016 10:29 door El Mik.
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Rudy t.
03 juni 2016 10:31
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Portal is al heel lang weg bij sky toch?
De aanvankelijke bijdrage van Michael b is een pareltje, elke afzonderlijke zin leest als een jongensboek. Gelijk Astana even behandelen. Alleen jammer dat je de kans laat missen om je mening over ten dam te geven. Of leezer. Nu we het erover hebben, vind je dat goeie renners eigenlijk?
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De aanvankelijke bijdrage van Michael b is een pareltje, elke afzonderlijke zin leest als een jongensboek. Gelijk Astana even behandelen. Alleen jammer dat je de kans laat missen om je mening over ten dam te geven. Of leezer. Nu we het erover hebben, vind je dat goeie renners eigenlijk?
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03 juni 2016 11:51
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Nee, die tang slaat op jou. Jij begint met het over Porter te hebben. Ik haak aan door hem dan ook maar meteen Gregory te noemen. Jij meldt vervolgens dat (wederom) Porter niet bij Sky rijdt. Ga in je eigen modder wroeten.
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testa della corsa
03 juni 2016 12:14
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Christophe Laporte inderdaad, vorige week nog een knappe 22ste plek in de GP de la Somme.
Kan in de Tour gaan verrassen, wat ik je zeg!
Kan in de Tour gaan verrassen, wat ik je zeg!
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Michael B*
03 juni 2016 13:16
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shake
03 juni 2016 14:10
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Goed gevonden. Gezocht op Porter?
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Michael B*
03 juni 2016 14:59
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Walnoot
03 juni 2016 15:08
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Het meest onwaarschijnlijke is nog wel dat er mensen zijn die serieus op Boogies bericht ingaan. Vind ik leuk.
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Michael B*
03 juni 2016 15:51
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Persoonlijk is het jammer dat er niet gestart wordt met een tijdrit maar een 'gewone' etappe. Wel weer leuk dat deze finisht in Utah Beach. Krijgen we weer een hoop verhaal van nos verslaggevers over D-Day. Verder missen we de ploegentijdrit, maar daarvoor in de plaats een klimtijdrit. Zou een ideale tour geweest zijn voor een Pantani en Ullrich... lekker eerst een hele week achterin de buik van het peloton, want het duurt pas tot de 13 etappe voordat de hoge bergen opdoemen. Ook leuk is de finish bovenop de Mont Ventoux ligt.
Nog moeilijk te zeggen wie de grote favorieten zijn, laten we de Dauphine en Zwitserland maar afwachten:
Chris Froome, Mede door een hardnekkige parasitaire infectie kwam zijn carrière relatief traag op gang. Dit jaar het minst gekoerst van alle favorieten. Wat hij reedt was ook wat minder kwa uitslagen dan andere jaren. Zowel als klimmer en als tijdrijder behoort hij tot de absolute wereldtop.
Nairo Quintana, Debuut was ronduit indrukwekkend in de tour, werd gelijk 2e: Won de bollentrui en de witte trui. Enigste die Froome vorig jaar partij kon bieden.
Bleek de sterkste klimmer van het gehele Tourpeloton te zijn, ook sterker dus dan Chris Froome. In 2016 zal de Tour waarschijnlijk vooral in de bergetappes worden beslist. Ideale omdat hij vooral een klimmer van de 3e week is.
Alberto Contador, Hoop gewonnen in zijn carriere, rijdt gelukkig dit jaar niet de Giro, focus op de Tour. Dit jaar al heel wat moois laten zien, lijkt alleen minder punch bergop te hebben dan 4/5 jaar geleden. Hij lijkt niet zo'n topfavoriet voor de Tour van 2016 te zijn als Froome en Quintana, maar mede door zijn ervaring en zijn vechtlust moet hij zeker wel weer tot de podiumkandidaten worden gerekend en is het zeker niet onmogelijk dat hij toch nogmaals de eindzege pakte.
Fabio Aru, Aru debuteren in de Tour de France. Hij zal hierin de kopman van Astana zijn. Vooral vanwege zijn sterke capaciteiten als klimmer moet deze Italiaan tot de kanshebbers voor het podium van de Tour de France 2016 worden gerekend. Vuelta vorig jaar gewonnen, dit jaar nog wat matig, ook weinig gereden. dit jaar.
Thibaut Pinot, 'de grote hoop van het Franse wielrennen.' Frankrijk kreeg het gevoel dat men eindelijk weer een potentiële toekomstige Tourwinnaar had.
Pinot heeft sindsdien nog diverse grandioze prestaties laten zien. is al eens 3e geworden in de Tour. Daalangst? Heeft dit jaar al een pak mooie uitslagen behaald.
Overige klassementsrenners
Tsja en dan hebben we nog een zooitje overblijfsel: Romain Bardet (AG2R), Tejay van Garderen, Porter, Bauke Mollema (Trek), Gesink, Wilco Kelderman, Tom Dumoulin. Nibali en Talansky
Nog moeilijk te zeggen wie de grote favorieten zijn, laten we de Dauphine en Zwitserland maar afwachten:
Chris Froome, Mede door een hardnekkige parasitaire infectie kwam zijn carrière relatief traag op gang. Dit jaar het minst gekoerst van alle favorieten. Wat hij reedt was ook wat minder kwa uitslagen dan andere jaren. Zowel als klimmer en als tijdrijder behoort hij tot de absolute wereldtop.
Nairo Quintana, Debuut was ronduit indrukwekkend in de tour, werd gelijk 2e: Won de bollentrui en de witte trui. Enigste die Froome vorig jaar partij kon bieden.
Bleek de sterkste klimmer van het gehele Tourpeloton te zijn, ook sterker dus dan Chris Froome. In 2016 zal de Tour waarschijnlijk vooral in de bergetappes worden beslist. Ideale omdat hij vooral een klimmer van de 3e week is.
Alberto Contador, Hoop gewonnen in zijn carriere, rijdt gelukkig dit jaar niet de Giro, focus op de Tour. Dit jaar al heel wat moois laten zien, lijkt alleen minder punch bergop te hebben dan 4/5 jaar geleden. Hij lijkt niet zo'n topfavoriet voor de Tour van 2016 te zijn als Froome en Quintana, maar mede door zijn ervaring en zijn vechtlust moet hij zeker wel weer tot de podiumkandidaten worden gerekend en is het zeker niet onmogelijk dat hij toch nogmaals de eindzege pakte.
Fabio Aru, Aru debuteren in de Tour de France. Hij zal hierin de kopman van Astana zijn. Vooral vanwege zijn sterke capaciteiten als klimmer moet deze Italiaan tot de kanshebbers voor het podium van de Tour de France 2016 worden gerekend. Vuelta vorig jaar gewonnen, dit jaar nog wat matig, ook weinig gereden. dit jaar.
Thibaut Pinot, 'de grote hoop van het Franse wielrennen.' Frankrijk kreeg het gevoel dat men eindelijk weer een potentiële toekomstige Tourwinnaar had.
Pinot heeft sindsdien nog diverse grandioze prestaties laten zien. is al eens 3e geworden in de Tour. Daalangst? Heeft dit jaar al een pak mooie uitslagen behaald.
Overige klassementsrenners
Tsja en dan hebben we nog een zooitje overblijfsel: Romain Bardet (AG2R), Tejay van Garderen, Porter, Bauke Mollema (Trek), Gesink, Wilco Kelderman, Tom Dumoulin. Nibali en Talansky
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Johan
03 juni 2016 15:58
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Wie is toch die Porter die steeds opduikt?
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03 juni 2016 16:05
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Johan Schreef:
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> Wie is toch die Porter die steeds opduikt?
Oud-ploeggenoot van Froomer.
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> Wie is toch die Porter die steeds opduikt?
Oud-ploeggenoot van Froomer.
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03 juni 2016 16:07
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Walnoot Schreef:
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> Het meest onwaarschijnlijke is nog wel dat er
> mensen zijn die serieus op Boogies bericht ingaan.
> Vind ik leuk.
Serieus?
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> Het meest onwaarschijnlijke is nog wel dat er
> mensen zijn die serieus op Boogies bericht ingaan.
> Vind ik leuk.
Serieus?
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El Mik
03 juni 2016 16:08
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Goed dat je bij Bardet en Mollema even de ploegen vermeldt 
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Slimmerd
03 juni 2016 16:48
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Talansky 
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Frederik D.
03 juni 2016 17:03
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Eliott Porter.
Porter
Porter twittert
Krijgt zijn ploeg op het laatste moment een wild card?
Hup Porter.
Wij allen zijn sub-porter van Porter.
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Porter
Porter twittert
Krijgt zijn ploeg op het laatste moment een wild card?
Hup Porter.
Wij allen zijn sub-porter van Porter.
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Walnoot
03 juni 2016 19:45
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Ja, vooral die post waar je punt A,B en C bespreekt, dolkomisch. Doe zo door!
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lodjan
03 juni 2016 19:51
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Je kunt leuk schrijven, moet je wat (meer) mee gaan doen. Ik heb wel een foutje gezien. Het moet zijn: Contador reedt dit jaar gelukkig geen Giro.
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Slimmerd
04 juni 2016 12:01
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Reed niet de Giro bedoel je denk ik
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merijntje mortirolo
04 juni 2016 12:05
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Giro wel ja, maar die t stondt er bewusdt, denk ik.
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El Chaba
04 juni 2016 13:01
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lodjan
04 juni 2016 13:09
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El Chaba
04 juni 2016 13:18
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Overige klassementsrenners
Tsja en dan hebben we nog een zooitje overblijfsel: Romain Bardet (AG2R), Tejay van Garderen, Porter, Bauke Mollema (Trek), Gesink, Wilco Kelderman, Tom Dumoulin. Nibali en Talansky
Je vergeet je goede vriend Robert Gesink..
Tsja en dan hebben we nog een zooitje overblijfsel: Romain Bardet (AG2R), Tejay van Garderen, Porter, Bauke Mollema (Trek), Gesink, Wilco Kelderman, Tom Dumoulin. Nibali en Talansky
Je vergeet je goede vriend Robert Gesink..
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Michael B.
04 juni 2016 19:10
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El Chaba Schreef:
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> Overige klassementsrenners
> Tsja en dan hebben we nog een zooitje
> overblijfsel: Romain Bardet (AG2R), Tejay van
> Garderen, Porter, Bauke Mollema (Trek), Gesink,
> Wilco Kelderman, Tom Dumoulin. Nibali en
> Talansky
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> Je vergeet je goede vriend Robert Gesink..
Die benoem ik wel hoor, heb alleen zijn achternaam vermeldt
. Goed lezen mijn vriend.
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> Overige klassementsrenners
> Tsja en dan hebben we nog een zooitje
> overblijfsel: Romain Bardet (AG2R), Tejay van
> Garderen, Porter, Bauke Mollema (Trek), Gesink,
> Wilco Kelderman, Tom Dumoulin. Nibali en
> Talansky
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> Je vergeet je goede vriend Robert Gesink..
Die benoem ik wel hoor, heb alleen zijn achternaam vermeldt
. Goed lezen mijn vriend.
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Brieske
04 juni 2016 23:40
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Zeker in topics als deze erg hinderlijk dat er niet bij de nieuwe reacties staat dat de reactie nieuw is.
Maar dat je naar tijden van posten moet kijken om te zien wat de nieuwe reactie's zijn.
Vaker gevraagd lieve Spaak.
Is het mogelijk, bv in de rode balk waar de naam van de prikker ook staat, om daar groot en duidelijk 'nieuw' in te zetten zodat bij het scrollen in een oogopslag duidelijk is wat de nieuwe reactie is.
Net als bij het oude prikbord zeg maar.
Mijn dank zal groot zijn.
Ontopic: Hup Gesink!
Groet
Maar dat je naar tijden van posten moet kijken om te zien wat de nieuwe reactie's zijn.
Vaker gevraagd lieve Spaak.
Is het mogelijk, bv in de rode balk waar de naam van de prikker ook staat, om daar groot en duidelijk 'nieuw' in te zetten zodat bij het scrollen in een oogopslag duidelijk is wat de nieuwe reactie is.
Net als bij het oude prikbord zeg maar.
Mijn dank zal groot zijn.
Ontopic: Hup Gesink!
Groet
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Pyama
04 juni 2016 23:48
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Staat er toch gewoon?
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Brieske
04 juni 2016 23:57
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Vaker over gehad.
Niet met de instellingen die ik heb, voor mij de fijnste instellingen maar mis alleen dat 'nieuw' bij een nieuwe reactie.
Weergave discussielijn is discussielijst > standaard
Weergave discussielijn bij het lezen > meerdere berichten per pagina in een discussielijn
Groet
Niet met de instellingen die ik heb, voor mij de fijnste instellingen maar mis alleen dat 'nieuw' bij een nieuwe reactie.
Weergave discussielijn is discussielijst > standaard
Weergave discussielijn bij het lezen > meerdere berichten per pagina in een discussielijn
Groet
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El Mik
05 juni 2016 00:48
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Eens en ook al vaker om gevraagd.
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Pyama
05 juni 2016 11:33
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Het ligt dus aan jouw rare instelling. Misschien moet je daar eens aan werken? Als je niet duidelijk formuleert snap Spaak (en iedereen) er natuurlijk niks van.
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Walnoot
05 juni 2016 11:39
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Eens met Bries. Op het oude prikbord stond er als je een topic opende een marker 'nieuw' bij alle berichten die er bij waren gekomen sinds je dat topic voor het laatst geopend had. Op dit prikbord zie je alleen op de homepage dat er nieuwe berichten zijn, maar niet hoeveel. En als je het topic opent, is het ook niet duidelijk welke er allemaal nieuw zijn. Dat is verder ook wel het enige dat beter was aan het oude prikbord, hup Spaak dus.
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Brieske
05 juni 2016 12:27
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Brieske
05 juni 2016 12:31
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Wat is er raar aan een instelling als je die zelf zo kan instellen.
Misschien moet jij eens aan je instelling werken.
Niet duidelijk geformuleerd, das idd niet mijn sterkste kant (kan niet alleen maar sterke kanten hebben) maar Spaak heeft eerder aangegeven het te begrijpen.
X
Misschien moet jij eens aan je instelling werken.
Niet duidelijk geformuleerd, das idd niet mijn sterkste kant (kan niet alleen maar sterke kanten hebben) maar Spaak heeft eerder aangegeven het te begrijpen.
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El Chaba
05 juni 2016 15:40
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Duidelijk geformuleerd hoor en verder ook helemaal eens.
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zumsteg
05 juni 2016 21:22
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Bij de regel er boven, 'Template', moet je 'Classic Phorum Template 0.4' kiezen.
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Pyama
05 juni 2016 21:28
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Tuurlijk niet duidelijk geformuleerd. Als hij niet zegt dat hij aan de instellingen heeft lopen klooien (anders zou het wel op standaard staan), snapt niemand dat ie geen nieuw in zijn balkjes heeft. Ik heb het lekker wel... dus als je het zo graag wilt, fijn standaard worden. Afwijkingen hebben nu eenmaal plussen en minnen.
Zo en nu niet meer Spaak lastig vallen met futiliteiten.
Zo en nu niet meer Spaak lastig vallen met futiliteiten.
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Brieske
05 juni 2016 21:32
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Idd Zumsteg, die voldoet aan bovengenoemde wensen.
Maar echt, die lay out. Ik wil gewoon de classic hebben zoals ik hem nu heb en zoals ik al 14 jaar aan gehecht ben.
Het moet toch niet zo moeilijk zijn om die 'nieuw' functie hier ook toe te passen?
Ontopic: hup Gesink!
Groet
Maar echt, die lay out. Ik wil gewoon de classic hebben zoals ik hem nu heb en zoals ik al 14 jaar aan gehecht ben.
Het moet toch niet zo moeilijk zijn om die 'nieuw' functie hier ook toe te passen?
Ontopic: hup Gesink!
Groet
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Brieske
05 juni 2016 21:34
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Als mensen gaan bevelen werkt dat vaak averechts en worden de beveelde vaak hele irritante mannetjes naar de bevelhebber toe...
Groet
Groet
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zumsteg
05 juni 2016 21:35
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Zo, en nu smartphone/tablet/laptop weg en aan het bier!
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Spaak
06 juni 2016 09:16
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Ik heb al 'ns eerder naar die "(nieuw)"-optie gekeken, maar toen kreeg ik het niet voor elkaar om dat binnen de huidige template te bouwen.
Maar goed, inmiddels zijn we weer een jaartje verder en wellicht dat het me nu wel lukt. Ik hou jullie op de hoogte!
Maar goed, inmiddels zijn we weer een jaartje verder en wellicht dat het me nu wel lukt. Ik hou jullie op de hoogte!
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Brieske
06 juni 2016 10:09
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GvL
06 juni 2016 13:36
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Eens met Brieske
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malheur
06 juni 2016 15:25
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Eens met Brieske
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testa della corsa
06 juni 2016 15:40
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Eens met Brieske
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MarcoV
07 juni 2016 14:33
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Lotto-Jumbo heeft een persbericht over een ruime voorselectie opgesteld. Naast de 12 namen hierboven ook nog Van Emden en Tankink. En verder (zoals ook verwacht) niemand van de Giro-renners.
[www.teamlottojumbo.nl]
[www.teamlottojumbo.nl]
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Michael B*
07 juni 2016 14:48
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@Marco V
Coaches:
Merijn Zeeman
Nico Verhoeven
Frans Maassen
Neem aan dat dit geen voorselectie is, gaat Jan Boven en Engels gelukkig niet mee, die ja knikkers hebben al helemaal de koersintelligent van een koe. Hebben ze daar in ieder geval in de Tour geen last van.
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Coaches:
Merijn Zeeman
Nico Verhoeven
Frans Maassen
Neem aan dat dit geen voorselectie is, gaat Jan Boven en Engels gelukkig niet mee, die ja knikkers hebben al helemaal de koersintelligent van een koe. Hebben ze daar in ieder geval in de Tour geen last van.
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Clavan
07 juni 2016 14:56
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ton duk
07 juni 2016 18:02
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Clavan Schreef:
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> Bergop is het weer wat magertjes van TLJ.
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Bij SKY is het nog veel magerder,hoor
Ik tel 9x HOL, dus de keuze is gemakkelijk
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> Bergop is het weer wat magertjes van TLJ.
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Bij SKY is het nog veel magerder,hoor
Ik tel 9x HOL, dus de keuze is gemakkelijk
gr
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lodjan
07 juni 2016 19:25
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Ruudje2209
08 juni 2016 11:15
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Bij Fortuneo zijn Delaplace Sepulveda Sorensen en Vachon bevestigd voor de Tour (Fonseca nog niet)
Bij Direct Energie zijn Chavanel Coquard Sicard en Voeckler zeker. De voorselectie bestaat uit Duchesne, Gene, Hurel, Jeandesbosz Nauleau, Petit, Quemeneur en Tulik
Bij Direct Energie zijn Chavanel Coquard Sicard en Voeckler zeker. De voorselectie bestaat uit Duchesne, Gene, Hurel, Jeandesbosz Nauleau, Petit, Quemeneur en Tulik
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zumsteg
08 juni 2016 11:41
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In het verleden kon je nadenken over de selectie van de Raboploeg, er waren meestal 12 tot 14 goede kandidaten, nu is het een stuk minder. Niet om te bashen, ik snap dat je met minder geld minder goede renners hebt, maar het is wel armoe troef.
Gesink en Kelderman kunnen voor de top 10 en/of een bergetappe gaan
Bennett is de enige die verder redelijk kan klimmen (maar het is nog steeds handiger om mee te gaan in de vroege vlucht in de bergetappes)
Lindeman kan ook mee in die vlucht en voor de etappezege gaan in de overgangsetappes
Vanmarcke is gewoon een sterke renner die je goed kan gebruiken en die een vlakke overgangsrit kan winnen
Dan houdt het wel op. Roosen en Teunissen zijn erg jong en hebben in de Vuelta vorig jaar niet veel laten zien. Groenewegen is snel maar zou de Vuelta of Giro als eerste grote ronde niet beter zijn?
Martens is al jaren minder aan het worden.
Wagner is alleen handig als Groenewegen mee gaat, maar of Wagner nou de man is die je vooraan afzet in een Touretappe betwijfel ik.
Tankink, Wynants, Van Emden en Leezer zullen goede knechten zijn om je vooraan te houden tijdens vlakke etappes en om je te voorzien van een natje, droogje en jasje maar het is niet nodig om ze alle vier mee te nemen.
Gesink en Kelderman kunnen voor de top 10 en/of een bergetappe gaan
Bennett is de enige die verder redelijk kan klimmen (maar het is nog steeds handiger om mee te gaan in de vroege vlucht in de bergetappes)
Lindeman kan ook mee in die vlucht en voor de etappezege gaan in de overgangsetappes
Vanmarcke is gewoon een sterke renner die je goed kan gebruiken en die een vlakke overgangsrit kan winnen
Dan houdt het wel op. Roosen en Teunissen zijn erg jong en hebben in de Vuelta vorig jaar niet veel laten zien. Groenewegen is snel maar zou de Vuelta of Giro als eerste grote ronde niet beter zijn?
Martens is al jaren minder aan het worden.
Wagner is alleen handig als Groenewegen mee gaat, maar of Wagner nou de man is die je vooraan afzet in een Touretappe betwijfel ik.
Tankink, Wynants, Van Emden en Leezer zullen goede knechten zijn om je vooraan te houden tijdens vlakke etappes en om je te voorzien van een natje, droogje en jasje maar het is niet nodig om ze alle vier mee te nemen.
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ton duk
08 juni 2016 13:14
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zumsteg Schreef:
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- Vanmarcke is gewoon een sterke renner die je goed
> kan gebruiken en die een vlakke overgangsrit kan
> winnen
Roosen en Teunissen zijn erg
> jong en hebben in de Vuelta vorig jaar niet veel
> laten zien.
1. Ja, zijn imposante erelijst spreekt hierin boekdelen
2. Juist Roosen reed een goede Vuelta2015
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- Vanmarcke is gewoon een sterke renner die je goed
> kan gebruiken en die een vlakke overgangsrit kan
> winnen
Roosen en Teunissen zijn erg
> jong en hebben in de Vuelta vorig jaar niet veel
> laten zien.
1. Ja, zijn imposante erelijst spreekt hierin boekdelen
2. Juist Roosen reed een goede Vuelta2015
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zumsteg
15 juni 2016 17:28
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Lijkt me dat Sky Kennaugh en Intxausti niet mee neemt. Out met een gebroken sleutelbeen en Pfeiffer.
Landa kunnen ze beter naar de Vuelta sturen, kan ie lekker voor zichzelf rijden, heeft ook al een deel van de Giro gereden.
Nieve, Boswell, Lopez en Sebastian Henao hebben ook de Giro gereden en kunnen Landa ondersteunen in de Vuelta.
Dit lijkt me een uitgebalanceerde ploeg:
Froome
Thomas
Sergio Luis Henao
Poels
Konig
Roche
Kiriyenka
Stannard
Rowe
Kwiatkowski zou ik niet meenemen. Ritzeges zullen Sky een worst wezen en Kwiatkowski is te wisselvallig om in de trein plaats te nemen.
Landa kunnen ze beter naar de Vuelta sturen, kan ie lekker voor zichzelf rijden, heeft ook al een deel van de Giro gereden.
Nieve, Boswell, Lopez en Sebastian Henao hebben ook de Giro gereden en kunnen Landa ondersteunen in de Vuelta.
Dit lijkt me een uitgebalanceerde ploeg:
Froome
Thomas
Sergio Luis Henao
Poels
Konig
Roche
Kiriyenka
Stannard
Rowe
Kwiatkowski zou ik niet meenemen. Ritzeges zullen Sky een worst wezen en Kwiatkowski is te wisselvallig om in de trein plaats te nemen.
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Brieske
15 juni 2016 23:18
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Etappe 2 naar Cherbourg, schitterende finale!
De winnaar daar zou zomaar 4 dagen de gele trui kunnen dragen, of langer als hij mee kan over de Aspin.
Ontzettend benieuwd wie daar kanshebbers zijn want vind het moeilijk daar zelf een oordeel over te vellen, al denk ik dat het voor de 'klassieke coureurs' te zwaar (lengte) is.
Wie, of beter gezegd, welk type coureur verwachten jullie daar als eerste boven?
Meer de 'klassieke coureurs' zoals Avermaet, Gilbert, Stybar, Gerrans en Cancellara?
Of moet ik meer denken aan echte klimmers zoals Valverde, Bardet, Rodriguez of D. Martin?
Sagan, Matthews, Gallopin en Allaphillipe benoem ik bewust niet omdat ik verwacht dat zij tot bij beide groepen behoren.
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De winnaar daar zou zomaar 4 dagen de gele trui kunnen dragen, of langer als hij mee kan over de Aspin.
Ontzettend benieuwd wie daar kanshebbers zijn want vind het moeilijk daar zelf een oordeel over te vellen, al denk ik dat het voor de 'klassieke coureurs' te zwaar (lengte) is.
Wie, of beter gezegd, welk type coureur verwachten jullie daar als eerste boven?
Meer de 'klassieke coureurs' zoals Avermaet, Gilbert, Stybar, Gerrans en Cancellara?
Of moet ik meer denken aan echte klimmers zoals Valverde, Bardet, Rodriguez of D. Martin?
Sagan, Matthews, Gallopin en Allaphillipe benoem ik bewust niet omdat ik verwacht dat zij tot bij beide groepen behoren.
Groet
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Slimmerd
15 juni 2016 23:27
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Pyama je hebt Kelderman uit de selectie van LottoNL laten vallen...
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Prikdude
16 juni 2016 05:50
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Alaphilippe, Valverde, Van Avermaet, Vuillermoz.
Kunnen inderdaad wel 20 renners winnen maar zelfs als een Cancellara of Boasson Hagen het motortje vindt zie ik hen die trui niet omsjorren na de etappe naar Le Lioran, drie dagen later. Als er twee of wat lastige tietopkomsten waren uitgehaald had dit een nog mooier parcours geweest waar met een mespuntje verbeelding heel wat verschillende eindwinnaars ingekleurd op konden worden. Evenwel lijkt het in totaal een boemelparcours dat niet geheel op maat van de Froome's en Quintana's van deze wereld lijkt doch eerder de Contadors en jawel, Nibali's.
De klimtijdrit in de Alpen is ernstig charmant. Dusdanig ongezien dat zelfs een Tony Martin in de overgang daar voor zou passen over te miepen. Zou het moreel gezien zelfs bijna verantwoord vinden voortaan de/een tijdrit in een ronde te handhaven als ze er zo uitzien.
Hup Bardet (,Sagan, Nibali en GESINK!)
N.b. mogen we stiekem een beetje hopen op waaiers in de rit naar Angers?
Kunnen inderdaad wel 20 renners winnen maar zelfs als een Cancellara of Boasson Hagen het motortje vindt zie ik hen die trui niet omsjorren na de etappe naar Le Lioran, drie dagen later. Als er twee of wat lastige tietopkomsten waren uitgehaald had dit een nog mooier parcours geweest waar met een mespuntje verbeelding heel wat verschillende eindwinnaars ingekleurd op konden worden. Evenwel lijkt het in totaal een boemelparcours dat niet geheel op maat van de Froome's en Quintana's van deze wereld lijkt doch eerder de Contadors en jawel, Nibali's.
De klimtijdrit in de Alpen is ernstig charmant. Dusdanig ongezien dat zelfs een Tony Martin in de overgang daar voor zou passen over te miepen. Zou het moreel gezien zelfs bijna verantwoord vinden voortaan de/een tijdrit in een ronde te handhaven als ze er zo uitzien.
Hup Bardet (,Sagan, Nibali en GESINK!)
N.b. mogen we stiekem een beetje hopen op waaiers in de rit naar Angers?
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Pyama
16 juni 2016 07:36
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Klopt. Ipad is niet zo handig hiervoor. Dank.
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TdJ
16 juni 2016 21:20
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Denk dat dit de negen van Tinkoff worden:
Contador
Sagan
Majka
Kreuziger
Kiserlovski
Trofimov
Hansen
Valgren
Bodnar of Paulinho
[feltet.dk]
Contador
Sagan
Majka
Kreuziger
Kiserlovski
Trofimov
Hansen
Valgren
Bodnar of Paulinho
[feltet.dk]
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Pyama
16 juni 2016 21:49
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Zou goed kunnen. Bennati komt terug van een blessure maar is wel erg belangrijk met zijn ervaring voor Contador, Tossato was ook altijd erg belangrijk voor hem. Dus als beide er niet bij zijn is dat wel vreemd. Bodnar denk ik niet, komt ook terug van blessure terwijl Paulinho ook een roomie van Bertje is, vooral nu Hernandez er eindelijk eens niet bij is.
Bij BMC rijdt overigens Sammie Sanchez niet.
Bij BMC rijdt overigens Sammie Sanchez niet.
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merijntje mortirolo
17 juni 2016 08:15
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Who the fuck is Tossato?
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zumsteg
17 juni 2016 10:39
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Een ploeggenoot van Benatti en Pettachi.
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Pyama
17 juni 2016 13:27
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Vraag het aan Steve Jobs.
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merijntje mortirolo
17 juni 2016 14:28
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Hi hi. Ik geef Bill Gates vooralsnog altijd de schuld.
Bevalt dat Apple een beetje?
Bevalt dat Apple een beetje?
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lodjan
20 juni 2016 19:57
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De Duitse ProContinentale ploeg, die dankzij een uitnodiging kan deelnemen, trekt naar Frankrijk met als doel ritzeges. “Ik ben ervan overtuigd dat onze ploeg vol jonge renners een goede Tour de France kan rijden,” zei teammanager Ralph Denk in Düsseldorf. “Ik denk dat het realistisch is om een etappe te winnen.”
Bora-Argon 18 heeft inmiddels een aanvraag voor een WorldTour-status ingeleverd. “Financieel is het mogelijk. Het is een droom om aan de start te staan van de Tourstart 2017 in Düsseldorf.”
Bora-Argon 18 voor de Tour de France
flag-de Emanuel Buchmann
flag-de Andreas Schillinger
flag-de Paul Voss
flag-nz Shane Archbold
flag-cz Jan Barta
flag-it Cesare Benedetti
flag-ie Sam Bennett
flag-pl Bartosz Huzarski
flag-at Patrick Konrad
Bora-Argon 18 heeft inmiddels een aanvraag voor een WorldTour-status ingeleverd. “Financieel is het mogelijk. Het is een droom om aan de start te staan van de Tourstart 2017 in Düsseldorf.”
Bora-Argon 18 voor de Tour de France
flag-de Emanuel Buchmann
flag-de Andreas Schillinger
flag-de Paul Voss
flag-nz Shane Archbold
flag-cz Jan Barta
flag-it Cesare Benedetti
flag-ie Sam Bennett
flag-pl Bartosz Huzarski
flag-at Patrick Konrad
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Brieske
21 juni 2016 00:13
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Dit team hoort niet thuis op het hoogste niveau, en toch mogen ze vrijwel overal rijden...
Groet
Groet
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Pyama
21 juni 2016 07:32
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Wat reden ze goed he in de Giro en Suisse!
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Vittal
21 juni 2016 16:10
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LAMPRE-MERIDA’s line-up for the Grande Boucle 2016
Published Tuesday, June 21st, 2016
LAMPRE-MERIDA’s technical staff, after having consulted the team’s management, selected the nine riders of the line-up for the Tour de France, which will take place from July 2nd to July 24th (official website here).
Sports directors Philippe Mauduit and Mario Scirea, who’ll be supported by Daniele Righi, will counts on:
– Arashiro Yukiya: 31 years old, Japanese, 5 caps in the Tour
– Bono Matteo, 32 years old, Italian, 4 caps in the Tour
– Cimolai Davide: 26 years old, Italian, 3 caps in the Tour
– Costa Rui: 29 years old, Portuguese, 7 caps in the Tour and 3 stage victories
– Durasek Kristijan: 28 years old, Croatian, 2 caps in the Tour
– Grmay Tsgabu Gebremaryam: 24 years old, Ethiopian, rookie
– Meintjes Louis: 24 years old, South African, 1 caps in the Tour
– Pibernik Luka: 22 years old, Slovenian, rookie
– Polanc Jan: 24 years old, Slovenian, rookie
Substitutes: Mattia Cattaneo and Mario Costa.
Seven nations and three continents will be represented in the selection of LAMPRE-MERIDA: Croatia, Ethiopia, Japan, Italy, Portugal, Slovenia and South Africa; Africa, Asia and Europe.
The average age of the selection is 26,6 years old.
Three riders will debut in the Grand Boucle: the two Slovenian young guns Pibernik and Polanc and the Ethiopian Grmay, whose participation will be historic because he’ll be the first cyclist from Ethiopia to participate in the Tour de France.
Arashiro has already marked two records in 2009, when he was the first Japanese cyclist ever to enter in a top 5 of a stage in the Tour de France and to complete the Grande Boucle.
The operative staff’s members will be the mechanics Bacchion, Romanò and Pengo, the masseurs Capelli, Chiodini, Lima, Napolitano, Redaelli, the driver Bozzolo, the physicians Dr Guardascione and DR Pollastri, the press officers Appiani and Carlo Saroni and the chef De Sarro.
Published Tuesday, June 21st, 2016
LAMPRE-MERIDA’s technical staff, after having consulted the team’s management, selected the nine riders of the line-up for the Tour de France, which will take place from July 2nd to July 24th (official website here).
Sports directors Philippe Mauduit and Mario Scirea, who’ll be supported by Daniele Righi, will counts on:
– Arashiro Yukiya: 31 years old, Japanese, 5 caps in the Tour
– Bono Matteo, 32 years old, Italian, 4 caps in the Tour
– Cimolai Davide: 26 years old, Italian, 3 caps in the Tour
– Costa Rui: 29 years old, Portuguese, 7 caps in the Tour and 3 stage victories
– Durasek Kristijan: 28 years old, Croatian, 2 caps in the Tour
– Grmay Tsgabu Gebremaryam: 24 years old, Ethiopian, rookie
– Meintjes Louis: 24 years old, South African, 1 caps in the Tour
– Pibernik Luka: 22 years old, Slovenian, rookie
– Polanc Jan: 24 years old, Slovenian, rookie
Substitutes: Mattia Cattaneo and Mario Costa.
Seven nations and three continents will be represented in the selection of LAMPRE-MERIDA: Croatia, Ethiopia, Japan, Italy, Portugal, Slovenia and South Africa; Africa, Asia and Europe.
The average age of the selection is 26,6 years old.
Three riders will debut in the Grand Boucle: the two Slovenian young guns Pibernik and Polanc and the Ethiopian Grmay, whose participation will be historic because he’ll be the first cyclist from Ethiopia to participate in the Tour de France.
Arashiro has already marked two records in 2009, when he was the first Japanese cyclist ever to enter in a top 5 of a stage in the Tour de France and to complete the Grande Boucle.
The operative staff’s members will be the mechanics Bacchion, Romanò and Pengo, the masseurs Capelli, Chiodini, Lima, Napolitano, Redaelli, the driver Bozzolo, the physicians Dr Guardascione and DR Pollastri, the press officers Appiani and Carlo Saroni and the chef De Sarro.
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Shinzawai
21 juni 2016 16:25
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Als ik Costa was, zou ik lekker voor ritzeges gaan en trainen voor Rio: klassement in de Tour gaat hem toch niet lukken. Verder best een matige ploeg.
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El Chaba
21 juni 2016 18:33
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Hij heeft zich wel beter dan ooit voorbereid op een AK in de Tour en daarom er bewust voor gekozen nog niet te goed te zijn in Zwitserland, terwijl hij dat in het verleden wel was.
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Anony
21 juni 2016 19:20
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Iljo Keisse en Julien Vermote zorgen voor de Belgische inbreng in het team van Etixx-QuickStep voor de Ronde van Frankrijk. De Duitse spurtbom Marcel Kittel moet het team van Patrick Lefevere dagsuccessen bezorgen.
De Fransman Julian Alaphilippe en de Ier Daniel Martin, twee klimgeiten, de Duitse hardrijder Tony Martin (vorig jaar geletruidrager), de Italiaan Fabio Sabatini, de Argentijn Maximiliano Richeze en de Tsjech Petr Vakoc vervolledigen de negenkoppige selectie.
De Fransman Julian Alaphilippe en de Ier Daniel Martin, twee klimgeiten, de Duitse hardrijder Tony Martin (vorig jaar geletruidrager), de Italiaan Fabio Sabatini, de Argentijn Maximiliano Richeze en de Tsjech Petr Vakoc vervolledigen de negenkoppige selectie.
- [*] Keisse
[*] Vermote
[*] Kittel
[*] Alaphilippe
[*] Martin
[*] Martin
[*] Sabatini
[*] Richeze
[*] Vakoc
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Brieske
21 juni 2016 20:38
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Geloof niet dat er nog veel groei in Costa zit, en zijn beste ronderesultaat is tot nu toe een 18de plek.
Ik geloof er iig niet in.
Groet
Ik geloof er iig niet in.
Groet
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TdJ
22 juni 2016 10:05
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De negen van Orica-Greenedge:
Simon Gerrans, Michael Matthews, Daryl Impey, Michael Albasini, Adam Yates, Luke Durbridge, Ruben Plaza, Chris Juul Jensen, Mathew Hayman.
Simon Gerrans, Michael Matthews, Daryl Impey, Michael Albasini, Adam Yates, Luke Durbridge, Ruben Plaza, Chris Juul Jensen, Mathew Hayman.
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Luijt
22 juni 2016 11:42
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Wat een zootje ongeregeld, dat Lampre. Wordt niks met die vergaarbak van nationaliteiten met aan het hoofd Rui Costa die nog nooit wat heeft gepresteerd in de tour. Meintjes zal met zijn 12e plaats dit jaar aanzienlijk hoger eindigen.
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Luijt
22 juni 2016 11:44
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Sterke ploeg die ongetwijfeld weer veel gaat winnen; ongetwijfeld goed geprepareerd ook. Martin en Alaphillipe kunnen het hooggebergte echter niet aan, dat is wel jammer.
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Cecchini
22 juni 2016 12:15
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Nooit wat gepresteerd ? Ik kan me toch zeker 3 etappe zeges in de Tour herinneren
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Shinzawai
22 juni 2016 13:02
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Gerrans en Matthews, dat wordt weer fijn samenwerken.
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TdJ
22 juni 2016 13:39
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SKY:
Froome, Sergio Henao, Vasil Kiriyenka, Mikel Landa, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Luke Rowe, Ian Stannard en Geraint Thomas
Froome, Sergio Henao, Vasil Kiriyenka, Mikel Landa, Mikel Nieve, Wout Poels, Luke Rowe, Ian Stannard en Geraint Thomas
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Pyama
22 juni 2016 14:05
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Sterkste Sky trein bergop ooit?
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SJ
22 juni 2016 14:16
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Geen Gesink in de Tour.
Lotto-Jumbo selectie: Bennett, Groenewegen, Kelderman, Lindemen, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke, Wagner en Wynants.
Lotto-Jumbo selectie: Bennett, Groenewegen, Kelderman, Lindemen, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke, Wagner en Wynants.
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JvR
22 juni 2016 14:16
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LottoNLJumbo zonder Gesink: Bennett, Groenewegen, Kelderman, Lindeman, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke, Wagner en Wynants.
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Clavan
22 juni 2016 14:16
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Luijt
22 juni 2016 14:24
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Hij is vele malen benoemd kopman voor het AK geweest en heeft dat (maar mijn geheugen is een zeef) nooit waargemaakt in de tour.
En dat ie dan als gemankeerd klassementsrenner nog 3 keer een etappe heeft gewonnen is wat mij betreft niet meer dan een voetnoot in de geschiedenis. Juist omdat ie geacht moet worden een klassement te kunnen rijden. Daarom moet Gesink vooral voor het AK blijven gaan (nog afgezien van het feit dat hij nooit 3 touretappes zal winnen).
En dat ie dan als gemankeerd klassementsrenner nog 3 keer een etappe heeft gewonnen is wat mij betreft niet meer dan een voetnoot in de geschiedenis. Juist omdat ie geacht moet worden een klassement te kunnen rijden. Daarom moet Gesink vooral voor het AK blijven gaan (nog afgezien van het feit dat hij nooit 3 touretappes zal winnen).
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Carlos Danger
22 juni 2016 14:25
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Laat Kelderman dan ook maar thuis, Die heeft helemaal niets aan deze ploeg.
Hup Gesink, Hup Vuelta.
Hup Gesink, Hup Vuelta.
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ton duk
22 juni 2016 14:30
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JvR Schreef:
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> LottoNLJumbo zonder Gesink: Bennett, Groenewegen,
> Kelderman, Lindeman, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke,
> Wagner en Wynants.
Trieste selectie ...onbegrijpelijk
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> LottoNLJumbo zonder Gesink: Bennett, Groenewegen,
> Kelderman, Lindeman, Martens, Roosen, Vanmarcke,
> Wagner en Wynants.
Trieste selectie ...onbegrijpelijk
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Pyama
22 juni 2016 14:37
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Vele malen? Hij zit nu voor het 3e jaar bij Lampre toch? 2 kansen gehad, 2 verprutst. Costa is dan ook geen GC rijder in GT's.
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Shinzawai
22 juni 2016 14:41
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Poeh... straks 6 Sky-renners bij de laatste 10/15 in elke bergetappe?
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Hangmat
22 juni 2016 14:45
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wie had jij dan gestuurd?
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ton duk
22 juni 2016 14:58
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Hangmat Schreef:
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> wie had jij dan gestuurd?
Ok, daar gaan we weer:
Kelderman, Groenewegen, Roosen, Teunissen, Bouwman, Lindeman , Tankink, vEmden , Leezer , vWinden, Keizer en Hofland ......1e 6 zeker...laatste 6
nog 3
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> wie had jij dan gestuurd?
Ok, daar gaan we weer:
Kelderman, Groenewegen, Roosen, Teunissen, Bouwman, Lindeman , Tankink, vEmden , Leezer , vWinden, Keizer en Hofland ......1e 6 zeker...laatste 6
nog 3
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MarcoV
22 juni 2016 15:21
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ton duk Schreef:
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> Ok, daar gaan we weer:
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je plaat is al extreem grijsgedraaid, en begint wat belachelijke vormen aan te nemen (van winden in de Tour, pffff).
Poels en Dumoulin dan graag thuislaten, horen niet in een Britse en Duitse ploeg. Ga daar je energie eens in steken.
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> Ok, daar gaan we weer:
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je plaat is al extreem grijsgedraaid, en begint wat belachelijke vormen aan te nemen (van winden in de Tour, pffff).
Poels en Dumoulin dan graag thuislaten, horen niet in een Britse en Duitse ploeg. Ga daar je energie eens in steken.
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zumsteg
22 juni 2016 16:51
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In de breedte zeker. Hieronder de 23 renners die van 2012 t/m 2016 in de Tourploeg van Sky hebben gezeten (in de 2010 en 2011 was de ploeg duidelijk zwakker.) Ik heb ze in de volgorde van hun klimkwaliteiten gezet (naar mijn mening).
Het trio Froome, Wiggins en Porte uit 2012 was denk ik wel wat sterker dan het trio Froome, Landa en Henao van dit jaar.
1 Froome 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012
2 Wiggins 2012
3 Landa 2016
4 Porte 2015 2014 2013 2012
5 Sergio Henao 2016
6 Nieve 2016 2014
7 König 2015
8 Poels 2016 2015
9 Rogers 2012
10 Thomas 2016 2015 2014 2013
11 Roche 2015
12 Lopez 2014 2013
13 Kiriyenka 2016 2014 2013
14 Sioutsou 2013 2012
15 Kennaugh 2015 2013
16 Knees 2012
17 Hagen 2013 2012
18 Zandio 2014
19 Rowe 2016 2015
20 Stannard 2016 2015 2013
21 Pate 2014
22 Eisel 2014 2012
23 Cavendish 2012
2016: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 13, 19, 20 som 1 t/m 9: 85 1 t/m 7: 46 1 t/m 3: 9
2015: 1, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 15, 19, 20 som 1 t//m 9: 95 1 t/m 7: 56 1 t/m 3: 12
2014: 1, 4, 6, 10, 12, 13, 18, 21, 22 som 1 t/m 9: 107 1 t/m 7: 64 1 t/m 3: 11
2013: 1, 4, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 som 1 t/m 9: 98 1 t/m 7: 69 1 t/m 3: 15
2012: 1, 2, 4, 9, 14, 16, 17, 22, 23 som 1 t/m 9: 108 1 t/m 7: 63 1 t/m 3: 7
Het trio Froome, Wiggins en Porte uit 2012 was denk ik wel wat sterker dan het trio Froome, Landa en Henao van dit jaar.
1 Froome 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012
2 Wiggins 2012
3 Landa 2016
4 Porte 2015 2014 2013 2012
5 Sergio Henao 2016
6 Nieve 2016 2014
7 König 2015
8 Poels 2016 2015
9 Rogers 2012
10 Thomas 2016 2015 2014 2013
11 Roche 2015
12 Lopez 2014 2013
13 Kiriyenka 2016 2014 2013
14 Sioutsou 2013 2012
15 Kennaugh 2015 2013
16 Knees 2012
17 Hagen 2013 2012
18 Zandio 2014
19 Rowe 2016 2015
20 Stannard 2016 2015 2013
21 Pate 2014
22 Eisel 2014 2012
23 Cavendish 2012
2016: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 13, 19, 20 som 1 t/m 9: 85 1 t/m 7: 46 1 t/m 3: 9
2015: 1, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 15, 19, 20 som 1 t//m 9: 95 1 t/m 7: 56 1 t/m 3: 12
2014: 1, 4, 6, 10, 12, 13, 18, 21, 22 som 1 t/m 9: 107 1 t/m 7: 64 1 t/m 3: 11
2013: 1, 4, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20 som 1 t/m 9: 98 1 t/m 7: 69 1 t/m 3: 15
2012: 1, 2, 4, 9, 14, 16, 17, 22, 23 som 1 t/m 9: 108 1 t/m 7: 63 1 t/m 3: 7
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Slimmerd
22 juni 2016 16:55
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Eigenlijk ook te belachelijk dat hij juicht voor overwinnigen voor overlopers, moeten Poels, Dumoulin, Mollema niet eigenlijk hun paspoort inleveren?
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zumsteg
22 juni 2016 16:56
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Dat denk ik niet. Er zitten 7 renners bij die top 20 kunnen rijden maar alleen de eerste plaats is interessant voor Sky. Wellicht dat ze 1 renner als backup klassementsman aanwijzen (Landa?) maar de rest laat zich uitbollen als hun werk er op zit en er zullen dagen zijn dat ze zich mogen sparen.
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zumsteg
22 juni 2016 16:58
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Sky zelf zal het wel weten. Lijkt me wel mooi om van al deze renners de grafiek te zien welk wattage ze maximaal kunnen trappen (verticale as) gedurende hoe lang (horizontale as).
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zumsteg
22 juni 2016 16:59
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Opvallend bij Katusha: Zakarin, die lag er toch naar bij in de Giro.
Benieuwd wat deze ploeg in de bergen gaat doen met Rodriguez, Vandenbroeck en Zakarin.
Benieuwd wat deze ploeg in de bergen gaat doen met Rodriguez, Vandenbroeck en Zakarin.
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Slimmerd
22 juni 2016 17:02
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Allemaal in de trein van Kristoff steken 
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Slimmerd
22 juni 2016 17:39
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Pineau is de negende man voor FdJ
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MarcoV
22 juni 2016 17:44
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Slimmerd Schreef:
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> Pineau is de negende man voor FdJ
ellende voor de commentatoren, Pinoo en Pinoo in één ploeg ...
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> Pineau is de negende man voor FdJ
ellende voor de commentatoren, Pinoo en Pinoo in één ploeg ...
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Cyclad
22 juni 2016 18:21
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Zelfs jij kunt dit nauwelijks serieus menen, Ton.
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ton duk
22 juni 2016 18:23
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MarcoV Schreef:
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> ton duk Schreef:
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> > Ok, daar gaan we weer:
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> je plaat is al extreem grijsgedraaid, en begint
> wat belachelijke vormen aan te nemen (van winden
> in de Tour, pffff).
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Tja, hij vroeg er toch naar...
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> ton duk Schreef:
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> > Ok, daar gaan we weer:
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> je plaat is al extreem grijsgedraaid, en begint
> wat belachelijke vormen aan te nemen (van winden
> in de Tour, pffff).
>
Tja, hij vroeg er toch naar...
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Cyclad
22 juni 2016 18:24
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Prima selectie onder de omstandigheden.
Zelfs Martens boven Teunissen (te licht) en Leezer (minder allround) snap ik.
Het is niet de ideale selectie, maar de ondersteuning voor Groenewegen is zelfs prima.
Zelfs Martens boven Teunissen (te licht) en Leezer (minder allround) snap ik.
Het is niet de ideale selectie, maar de ondersteuning voor Groenewegen is zelfs prima.
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ton duk
22 juni 2016 18:25
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Cyclad Schreef:
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> Zelfs jij kunt dit nauwelijks serieus menen, Ton.
Hoezo niet...dit verkondig ik toch al jaren en zo speel ik al mijn wielerspelletjes ??
Ik zou idd geen enkele Buitenlander meenemen in een Nederlandse ploeg....zie Roompot
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> Zelfs jij kunt dit nauwelijks serieus menen, Ton.
Hoezo niet...dit verkondig ik toch al jaren en zo speel ik al mijn wielerspelletjes ??
Ik zou idd geen enkele Buitenlander meenemen in een Nederlandse ploeg....zie Roompot
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Cyclad
22 juni 2016 18:30
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Jij gaat dus serieus het liefst met een zwakke ploeg op stap. Okay, je bent en blijft in elk geval consequent. 
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ton duk
22 juni 2016 18:38
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Slimmerd Schreef:
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> Eigenlijk ook te belachelijk dat hij juicht voor
> overwinnigen voor overlopers, moeten Poels,
> Dumoulin, Mollema niet eigenlijk hun paspoort
> inleveren?
Ach, ik heb in April ook mogen lezen dat notoire SKY-haters toch juichend voor de tv stonden tijdens L-B-L
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> Eigenlijk ook te belachelijk dat hij juicht voor
> overwinnigen voor overlopers, moeten Poels,
> Dumoulin, Mollema niet eigenlijk hun paspoort
> inleveren?
Ach, ik heb in April ook mogen lezen dat notoire SKY-haters toch juichend voor de tv stonden tijdens L-B-L
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Slimmerd
22 juni 2016 19:21
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BMC:
van Avermaet
Bookwalter
Burghardt
Caruso
Dennis
van Garderen
Moinard
Porte
Schär
van Avermaet
Bookwalter
Burghardt
Caruso
Dennis
van Garderen
Moinard
Porte
Schär
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Cyclad
22 juni 2016 19:32
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Ook een beste ploeg, zeg.
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Slimmerd
22 juni 2016 19:40
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Talansky die toch altijd een zekerheidje leek voor de Tour, heeft besloten te kiezen voor de Vuelta dit jaar en de Tour over te slaan. Tevens heeft hij meteen zijn contract verlengd.
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Pyama
22 juni 2016 19:40
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Blijft leuk dat Jose Been weer zat te kirren dat deselecties elk jaar pas na de NK komen.
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Curzio
22 juni 2016 19:55
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Vanaf de winter, en in juni hebben ze dat nog eens herhaald, wordt Thomas aangewezen als die back-up. Of zijn Britse nationaliteit daarin een rol speelt weet ik niet (maar suggereer ik wel).
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Dennis
22 juni 2016 20:28
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het enige waar ik met ton mee eens ben is dat het aantal Nederlanders niet bijster hoog is...
Poels
LTJ 4x
clement
mollema
Giant 4x?
Cannondale 2x?
dan zouden we 13 uitkomen, de laatste 4 jaar zaten we op 17+
2012: 18
2013: 17
2014: 17
2015: 20
Poels
LTJ 4x
clement
mollema
Giant 4x?
Cannondale 2x?
dan zouden we 13 uitkomen, de laatste 4 jaar zaten we op 17+
2012: 18
2013: 17
2014: 17
2015: 20
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Carlos Danger
23 juni 2016 00:10
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MarcoV Schreef:
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> Slimmerd Schreef:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Pineau is de negende man voor FdJ
>
> ellende voor de commentatoren, Pinoo en Pinoo in
> één ploeg ...
Dankbaar juist; hebben ze wat om uit te leggen en over te zwetsen. "Mocht u soms denken, is dat familie van elkaar. Nee. Pinot schrijft u namelijk m...........". Verheug me er nu al op.
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> Slimmerd Schreef:
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> -----
> > Pineau is de negende man voor FdJ
>
> ellende voor de commentatoren, Pinoo en Pinoo in
> één ploeg ...
Dankbaar juist; hebben ze wat om uit te leggen en over te zwetsen. "Mocht u soms denken, is dat familie van elkaar. Nee. Pinot schrijft u namelijk m...........". Verheug me er nu al op.
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Michael B*
23 juni 2016 08:28
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Na het uitvallen van Robert Gesink had ik liever een Nederlandse renner in zijn plaats gehad. Waarom geen Jos van Emden. Die laat zien dat hij in uitstekende vorm is. ZLM Tour 3e in het eindklassement, 2e plek op het NK tijdrijden.... die hadden ze best voor week1 en week2 kunnen meenemen. Zo'n Wijnants gaat toch weinig brengen. Timo Roosen gaat het met zijn 1:94 lengte veel te moeilijk krijgen in het hooggebergte. Overigens wel goed dat ze Tom Leezer thuislaten. Die kwam in de ZLM Tour ook iedere dag op grote achterstand binnen.
Is te hopen dat een Bauke Mollema ons in positieve zin gaat verrassen. Wat dat betreft ligt deze 'darkhorse' beter op schema dan vorig jaar. Toen was het met zijn rug helemaal waardeloos, nu is het alleen wat keelpijn geweest wat tegenzat.
Dumoulin verwacht ik tot de 14 etappe goed. Daarna zullen de vele bergen teveel zijn. Beetje hetzelfde zoals hij in de Giro rondreed.
2 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 23/06/2016 08:38 door Michael B*.
Is te hopen dat een Bauke Mollema ons in positieve zin gaat verrassen. Wat dat betreft ligt deze 'darkhorse' beter op schema dan vorig jaar. Toen was het met zijn rug helemaal waardeloos, nu is het alleen wat keelpijn geweest wat tegenzat.
Dumoulin verwacht ik tot de 14 etappe goed. Daarna zullen de vele bergen teveel zijn. Beetje hetzelfde zoals hij in de Giro rondreed.
2 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 23/06/2016 08:38 door Michael B*.
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ton duk
23 juni 2016 09:49
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Michael B* Schreef:
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> Timo Roosen gaat het met zijn 1:94 lengte veel te
> moeilijk krijgen in het hooggebergte.
Reed al fluitend de Vuelta2015 uit met een goede 3e week en is ook dit jaar weer (figuurlijk) gegroeid
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> Timo Roosen gaat het met zijn 1:94 lengte veel te
> moeilijk krijgen in het hooggebergte.
Reed al fluitend de Vuelta2015 uit met een goede 3e week en is ook dit jaar weer (figuurlijk) gegroeid
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ton duk
23 juni 2016 10:01
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Cyclad Schreef:
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> Jij gaat dus serieus het liefst met een zwakke
> ploeg op stap. Okay, je bent en blijft in elk
> geval consequent.
Kijk, als Kelderman een klassement rijdt (of etappe wint)....als Groenewegen een etappe wint...dan
Als niet....dan gaat deze buitenlandse selectie een rol spelen in de kritieken en gaan de sponsoren Lotto.NL , Jumbo en Brand Loyalty niet blij zijn....en is het Kruijswijk-effect weer totaal te niet gedaan...
Moet een selectie dan (mede) sponsortechnisch worden samengesteld ??
Als je jezelf profileert als Nederlandse ploeg met puur Nederlandse belangen....zeg ik VOLMONDIG ja (6 vd 9 is voor mij dan het minimum)
gr
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> Jij gaat dus serieus het liefst met een zwakke
> ploeg op stap. Okay, je bent en blijft in elk
> geval consequent.
Kijk, als Kelderman een klassement rijdt (of etappe wint)....als Groenewegen een etappe wint...dan
Als niet....dan gaat deze buitenlandse selectie een rol spelen in de kritieken en gaan de sponsoren Lotto.NL , Jumbo en Brand Loyalty niet blij zijn....en is het Kruijswijk-effect weer totaal te niet gedaan...
Moet een selectie dan (mede) sponsortechnisch worden samengesteld ??
Als je jezelf profileert als Nederlandse ploeg met puur Nederlandse belangen....zeg ik VOLMONDIG ja (6 vd 9 is voor mij dan het minimum)
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ton duk
23 juni 2016 14:41
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Barguil, Dumoulin, Geschke, Preidler, Ten Dam, Degenkolb, Curvers, Sinkeldam en Timmer...de 9 van Alpecin-Giant
De Kort gaat mee als perschef
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De Kort gaat mee als perschef
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Frederik D.
23 juni 2016 14:43
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Wielerploeg Giant-Alpecin gaat met onder anderen Tom Dumoulin, Laurens ten Dam, John Degenkolb en Warren Barguil naar de Ronde van Frankrijk, die zaterdag 2 juli begint.
De Nederlands getinte Duitse ploeg maakte donderdag de selectie bekend, die verder bestaat uit Roy Curvers, Ramon Sinkeldam, Albert Timmer, Simon Geschke en Georg Preidler.
Door: NU.nl
De Nederlands getinte Duitse ploeg maakte donderdag de selectie bekend, die verder bestaat uit Roy Curvers, Ramon Sinkeldam, Albert Timmer, Simon Geschke en Georg Preidler.
Door: NU.nl
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ton duk
23 juni 2016 14:59
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Frederik D. Schreef:
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> Wielerploeg Giant-Alpecin gaat met onder anderen
> Tom Dumoulin, Laurens ten Dam, John Degenkolb en
> Warren Barguil naar de Ronde van Frankrijk, die
> zaterdag 2 juli begint.
> De Nederlands getinte Duitse ploeg maakte
> donderdag de selectie bekend, die verder bestaat
> uit Roy Curvers, Ramon Sinkeldam, Albert Timmer,
> Simon Geschke en Georg Preidler.
>
> Door: NU.nl
Oud nieuws
gr
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> Wielerploeg Giant-Alpecin gaat met onder anderen
> Tom Dumoulin, Laurens ten Dam, John Degenkolb en
> Warren Barguil naar de Ronde van Frankrijk, die
> zaterdag 2 juli begint.
> De Nederlands getinte Duitse ploeg maakte
> donderdag de selectie bekend, die verder bestaat
> uit Roy Curvers, Ramon Sinkeldam, Albert Timmer,
> Simon Geschke en Georg Preidler.
>
> Door: NU.nl
Oud nieuws
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AK
23 juni 2016 15:34
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Toch nog een extra Nederlander.
Lotto Jumbo met Nederlandse kopmannen met buitenlandse knechten en Giant met buitenlandse kopmannen met Nederlandse knechten.
Misschien teams samenvoegen en splitsen voor een compleet NL team, Ton?
Lotto Jumbo met Nederlandse kopmannen met buitenlandse knechten en Giant met buitenlandse kopmannen met Nederlandse knechten.
Misschien teams samenvoegen en splitsen voor een compleet NL team, Ton?
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ton duk
23 juni 2016 16:40
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AK Schreef:
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> Toch nog een extra Nederlander.
>
> Lotto Jumbo met Nederlandse kopmannen met
> buitenlandse knechten en Giant met buitenlandse
> kopmannen met Nederlandse knechten.
>
> Misschien teams samenvoegen en splitsen voor een
> compleet NL team, Ton?
JA,heel graag
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> Toch nog een extra Nederlander.
>
> Lotto Jumbo met Nederlandse kopmannen met
> buitenlandse knechten en Giant met buitenlandse
> kopmannen met Nederlandse knechten.
>
> Misschien teams samenvoegen en splitsen voor een
> compleet NL team, Ton?
JA,heel graag
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Michael B*
23 juni 2016 16:48
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Koen de Kort die bij Giant niet mee mag. Koen de Kort: 3x DNF, 1x DNS, reed dit jaar al niet al te best. Heeft praatjes voor 10, maar kan niet klimmen, kan niet sprinten, niet tijdrijden heeft geen inhoudt. Ook altijd nog veel te fit om na afloop voor de camera praatjes te maken. Als je Koen hoort praten(lees: brallen), denk je dat je te maken hebt met iemand die heel veel wint en altijd bij de eerste eindigt. Blijkbaar was zijn kruiwagen dit jaar niet voldoende om mee te mogen naar de Tour de France.
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Slimmerd
23 juni 2016 17:02
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Hij was zelf ook zeer teleurgesteld en reageerde in mijn ogen met een erg lullige tweet
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ton duk
23 juni 2016 17:36
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Slimmerd Schreef:
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> Hij was zelf ook zeer teleurgesteld en reageerde
> in mijn ogen met een erg lullige tweet
die van : kan ik mijn goede vorm tonen als ik wandel op vakantie ..
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> Hij was zelf ook zeer teleurgesteld en reageerde
> in mijn ogen met een erg lullige tweet
die van : kan ik mijn goede vorm tonen als ik wandel op vakantie ..
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Cyclad
23 juni 2016 18:09
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ik ga nu toch echt denken dat Michael B zijn geliefde sport helemaal niet zo goed volgt.
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Cyclad
23 juni 2016 18:10
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Prima selectie. Curvers-Sinkeldam-de Kort zijn redelijk uitwisselbaar, nu blijkt De Kort thuis. Begrijp ik wel.
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Cyclad
23 juni 2016 18:12
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Heeft geen inhoudt? 
Ach, De Kort is natuurlijk een prima renner, dus jouw "kwalificaties" snijden sowieso weinig of geen hout (of is het houdt, Michael?)
Hij reageert er inderdaad niet al te professioneel op, maar ik kan zijn teleurstelling heel goed begrijpen. De beslissing van de ploegleiding begrijp ik echter ook.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 23/06/2016 18:12 door Cyclad.
Ach, De Kort is natuurlijk een prima renner, dus jouw "kwalificaties" snijden sowieso weinig of geen hout (of is het houdt, Michael?)
Hij reageert er inderdaad niet al te professioneel op, maar ik kan zijn teleurstelling heel goed begrijpen. De beslissing van de ploegleiding begrijp ik echter ook.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 23/06/2016 18:12 door Cyclad.
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lodjan
23 juni 2016 18:35
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12 Nederlanders zeker. Cannondale kan het aantal Nederlanders op maximaal 15 brengen.
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Michael B.
23 juni 2016 20:26
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Cyclad Schreef:
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> Heeft geen inhoudt?
>
> Ach, De Kort is natuurlijk een prima renner, dus
> jouw "kwalificaties" snijden sowieso weinig of
> geen hout (of is het houdt, Michael?)
> Hij reageert er inderdaad niet al te professioneel
> op, maar ik kan zijn teleurstelling heel goed
> begrijpen. De beslissing van de ploegleiding
> begrijp ik echter ook.
met inhoudt bedoel ik wedstrijden van 200+ km. Daar heeft hij in al die jaren werkelijk nog nooit voorin met de betere kunnen meedoen.
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> Heeft geen inhoudt?
>
> Ach, De Kort is natuurlijk een prima renner, dus
> jouw "kwalificaties" snijden sowieso weinig of
> geen hout (of is het houdt, Michael?)
> Hij reageert er inderdaad niet al te professioneel
> op, maar ik kan zijn teleurstelling heel goed
> begrijpen. De beslissing van de ploegleiding
> begrijp ik echter ook.
met inhoudt bedoel ik wedstrijden van 200+ km. Daar heeft hij in al die jaren werkelijk nog nooit voorin met de betere kunnen meedoen.
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Carlos Danger
23 juni 2016 20:45
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Dat argument houd geen snee.
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Cyclad
23 juni 2016 21:59
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en met inhoudt bedoel ik dat je de t moet weglaten.
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Slimmerd
26 juni 2016 19:20
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Dumoulin en Gastauer maken het negental van AG2R compleet
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Von Kármán
27 juni 2016 10:18
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Astana, volgens Sporza:
Fabio Aru (Ita)
Vincenzo Nibali (Ita)
Jakob Fuglsang (Den)
Tanel Kangert (Est)
Aleksej Loetsenko (Kaz)
Luis Leon Sanchez (Spa)
Diego Rosa (Ita)
Andrej Grivko (Oek)
Paolo Tiralongo (Ita)
Fabio Aru (Ita)
Vincenzo Nibali (Ita)
Jakob Fuglsang (Den)
Tanel Kangert (Est)
Aleksej Loetsenko (Kaz)
Luis Leon Sanchez (Spa)
Diego Rosa (Ita)
Andrej Grivko (Oek)
Paolo Tiralongo (Ita)
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Michael B*
27 juni 2016 10:38
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Sebastiaan Langeveld... moet ie nu wel of niet mee naar de Tour...Is vrijdag teruggekomen van een hoogtestage. Geeft zelf aan dat het zaterdag op het NK goed voelde, maar ondertussen, gelet op zijn uitslagen van dit jaar.... eindigt hij in iedere Protour wedstrijd ver in de achterhouden. En zelfs in zijn ''geliefde' Vlaamse voorjaarswedstrijden stelde hij teleur. Zie liever overigens Slagter en Van Baarle in de Tour. Ondanks een mooi begin van zijn wielercarriere waarin hij nog weleens een overwinning meepakte, lijkt het nu meer een Tjallingi te worden...
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 10:47
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Direct Energy:
Coquard, Chavanel, Duchesne, Gene, Jeandebosz, Petit, Sicard, Tulik en Voeckler
Coquard, Chavanel, Duchesne, Gene, Jeandebosz, Petit, Sicard, Tulik en Voeckler
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 11:27
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Toch wel verrassend, Theuns behoort tot het negental van Trek deze Tour.
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TdJ
27 juni 2016 11:53
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Komen Zubeldia en Cancellara waarschijnlijk nog bij?!
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 12:07
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Of Hesjedal misschien nog, geen idee.
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Von Kármán
27 juni 2016 12:11
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Hesjedal's twitter:
Recovery time! France in July wasn't in the cards.
Dat lijkt me een nee.
Recovery time! France in July wasn't in the cards.
Dat lijkt me een nee.
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 12:21
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Dat lijkt me ook, dan zullen Zubeldia en Cancellara wel renner 8 en 9 worden bij Trek
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Von Kármán
27 juni 2016 12:22
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Pyama wist het blijkbaar gisteren al, want hij heeft er al 9 staan.
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 12:24
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Maar dat is met Hesjedal en zonder Theuns, Pyama zal de selectie van Trek nog wel bijwerken wanneer de tijd daar is
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TdJ
27 juni 2016 12:31
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De kersverse Italiaans kampioen Nizzolo viert zijn nationale titel op Ibiza, dus hij zal ook niet starten (zoals www.procyclingstats.com wél aangeeft).
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 27/06/2016 12:32 door TdJ.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 27/06/2016 12:32 door TdJ.
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Pyama
27 juni 2016 12:32
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Klopt, er staat nog geen definitief boven. Zeker opvallend. Een Tour zonder Zubeldia!
Direct Energie laatste man overigens ook toegevoegd.
Direct Energie laatste man overigens ook toegevoegd.
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 12:48
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Zubeldia kan er nog wel bijkomen toch? Hesjedal zegt op Twitter dat hij nu aan zijn rustperiode begint, dus die zal er niet bij zijn en dan nog wel Zubeldia lijkt mij.
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Slimmerd
27 juni 2016 13:39
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Castroviejo en Ventoso vallen af bij Movistar, Ion Izagirre en Oliveira maken het negental compleet
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TdJ
27 juni 2016 17:07
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Zoals verwacht: Zubeldia en Cancellara vervolledigen de selectie van Trek-Segafredo.
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Curzio
27 juni 2016 18:08
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Ook wel een akelig goed team zeg. Dacht dat ze Ion misschien zouden gaan uitspelen in de Vuelta. Maar dit is echt volle oorlogssterkte.
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Cyclad
27 juni 2016 19:02
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Cannondale met 3 Nederlanders:
Breschel, Matti
Craddock, Lawson
Howes, Alex
Koren, Kristijan
Langeveld, Sebastian
Navardauskas, Ramunas
Rolland, Pierre
Slagter, Tom-Jelte
van Baarle, Dylan
Breschel, Matti
Craddock, Lawson
Howes, Alex
Koren, Kristijan
Langeveld, Sebastian
Navardauskas, Ramunas
Rolland, Pierre
Slagter, Tom-Jelte
van Baarle, Dylan
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Cyclad
27 juni 2016 19:03
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Slagter, Van Baarle, Langeveld. Ze mogen alle drie mee.
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lodjan
27 juni 2016 20:21
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15 Nederlanders en 15 Belgen. Er vanuit gaande dat Vanmarcke start.
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Tinuz
27 juni 2016 22:17
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Toch vooral pelotonvulling ben ik bang, zowel de Nederlanders als de Belgen.
Wanneer zien we weer eens wat van T-J Slagter in een deftige koers bijvoorbeeld. Da's wel lang geleden.
Wanneer zien we weer eens wat van T-J Slagter in een deftige koers bijvoorbeeld. Da's wel lang geleden.
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Slimmerd
28 juni 2016 12:19
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Feillu, Fonseca en McLay maken de selectie van Fortuneo compleet.
Vanmiddag om 17.00 uur maakt Tinkoff zijn definitieve selectie bekend en dan is alles dus bekend.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 28/06/2016 15:36 door Slimmerd.
Vanmiddag om 17.00 uur maakt Tinkoff zijn definitieve selectie bekend en dan is alles dus bekend.
1 keer gewijzigd. Laatste wijziging: 28/06/2016 15:36 door Slimmerd.
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Slimmerd
28 juni 2016 17:14
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Tinkoff heeft zojuist zelf zijn 9 renners besproken en genoemd voor de Tour:
P. Sagan
Contador
Majka
Kreuziger
Kiserlovski
Bodnar
Gatto
Tosatto
Valgren Andersen
P. Sagan
Contador
Majka
Kreuziger
Kiserlovski
Bodnar
Gatto
Tosatto
Valgren Andersen
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Slimmerd
28 juni 2016 17:15
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Hansen, Trofimov en Paulinho vallen dus af en daarvoor zien we Gatto, Tossato en Bodnar.
p.s. Fuck Sky anyway (vrij naar de afsluiting van Tinkoff zelf)
p.s. Fuck Sky anyway (vrij naar de afsluiting van Tinkoff zelf)
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El Chaba
28 juni 2016 17:53
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Shinzawai
28 juni 2016 17:59
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Wat is er eigenlijk met Trofimov aan de hand? Rijdt het hele seizoen al zwak en in de Dauphiné was het nog slechter, inclusief DNF.
Wel een goed uitgebalanceerde ploeg verder.
Wel een goed uitgebalanceerde ploeg verder.
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Slimmerd
28 juni 2016 18:20
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Zeker een leuk uitgebalanceerde ploeg, het werd ook echt voorgesteld met twee kopmannen, dus Sagan mag zowaar eens wat hulp verwachten (de aanwezigheid van Gatto zegt daar al heel wat over uiteraard)
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Slimmerd
28 juni 2016 18:34
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Slechts 38 Fransen aan de start, of althans mijn gevoel zegt dat dit vrij weinig is. Wij Nederlanders zien verder alleen meer Spanjaarden (18) en evenveel Belgen (15) aan de start. Italië met maar 13 lijkt me ook aan de lage kant.
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Sticky Bottle
28 juni 2016 18:55
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Frankrijk zit bijna altijd rond de 40 starters. 38 is niet superlaag. Wel laagste sinds 2010. Toen waren het er 35. In 2005 waren het er slechts 32
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Ger
28 juni 2016 19:18
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Tinuz Schreef:
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> Toch vooral pelotonvulling ben ik bang, zowel de
> Nederlanders als de Belgen.
> Wanneer zien we weer eens wat van T-J Slagter in
> een deftige koers bijvoorbeeld. Da's wel lang
> geleden.
Wat is bij jou pelotonvulling? Renners die niet bij de eerste 3 eindigen?
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> Toch vooral pelotonvulling ben ik bang, zowel de
> Nederlanders als de Belgen.
> Wanneer zien we weer eens wat van T-J Slagter in
> een deftige koers bijvoorbeeld. Da's wel lang
> geleden.
Wat is bij jou pelotonvulling? Renners die niet bij de eerste 3 eindigen?
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Pyama
28 juni 2016 22:47
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Tinkov
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arki
29 juni 2016 09:28
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Net als vorig jaar maar weer één Rus aan de start (Zakarin), dat is toch opvallend weinig.
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Slimmerd
29 juni 2016 11:11
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Bij IAM mag er een streep door Devenyns, hij is ziek en laat de Tour dus schieten. De vervanger moet nog bekend gemaakt worden.
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rustdag
29 juni 2016 11:50
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Clavan
29 juni 2016 11:57
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Bouhanni ook niet van start.
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rustdag
29 juni 2016 12:02
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Ik zal hem denk niet missen.
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Slimmerd
29 juni 2016 12:11
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De sukkel.
Is er eigenlijk meer bekend over die vechtpartij waardoor hij dus nu niet kan starten?
Is er eigenlijk meer bekend over die vechtpartij waardoor hij dus nu niet kan starten?
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arki
29 juni 2016 12:13
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Slimmerd Schreef:
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> De sukkel.
>
> Is er eigenlijk meer bekend over die vechtpartij
> waardoor hij dus nu niet kan starten?
[www.telegraaf.nl]
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> De sukkel.
>
> Is er eigenlijk meer bekend over die vechtpartij
> waardoor hij dus nu niet kan starten?
[www.telegraaf.nl]
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Slimmerd
29 juni 2016 12:15
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Dank, goed verhaal weer.
Edet dus ook de vervanger, Cofidis wordt meteen een ploeg met niks deze Tour. Aanvallen zal het devies wel worden.
Edet dus ook de vervanger, Cofidis wordt meteen een ploeg met niks deze Tour. Aanvallen zal het devies wel worden.
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Cyclad
29 juni 2016 18:05
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Heel erg jammer. Ik ga hem wel missen. Sowieso altijd jammer als één van de beste sprinters niet kan deelnemen.
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El Chaba
29 juni 2016 20:38
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Op zich eens - objectief gezien - hoor, maar Bouhanni is één van de zeer weinige renners in het peloton die ik echt niet mag en dan zegt mijn subjectieve mening toch dat ik dat in dit geval niet zo heel erg vind.
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Curzio
29 juni 2016 20:43
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24 maart 2017 14:36
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